Leonardo Ulloa

[B.W.]

I think you might find that for a while there've been no great goalscorers up for grabs in any a league. It's not like we're missing out on a set of young machines who've exploded onto the scene and been snatched from our hands. That hasn't happened anywhere for a while. It's a world lull for them. I haven't seen many a decent one in our division who has taken us apart other than Wood really in that one game, and yes, Leicester maybe outbid us and a few others, but i think most clubs are scraping the barrel at present, and still having to pay silly-money.

I agree that there is a shortage, which is EXACTLY why we should have held onto Muzza...

 

[B.W.]

Out of interest, as I have no idea if you did or didn't, were you saying the same thing last year when Murray scored 6 goals all season?

TBH, no, but then who would? Even with 6 (7) goals last season, you could see he was still holding the ball up well, bringing others into play, heading the ball to score, heading the ball to defend, i.e. EXACTLY what we are looking for...

 

[Meade's Ball]

I agree that there is a shortage, which is EXACTLY why we should have held onto Muzza...

It might be best to move, mightn't it. You may have had more faith in him than those in charge at the club, and it was of course a shame he went, but it's 2013 now isn't it and we can't gripe for an eternity surely.

 

[B.W.]

It might be best to move, mightn't it. You may have had more faith in him than those in charge at the club, and it was of course a shame he went, but it's 2013 now isn't it and we can't gripe for an eternity surely.

I'll stop 'griping' when we sign a good replacement for Muzza.. in the meantime, let the Gus love-in, with the few realist 'gripers' continue...

 

[Reinelt12]

It might be best to move, mightn't it. You may have had more faith in him than those in charge at the club, and it was of course a shame he went, but it's 2013 now isn't it and we can't gripe for an eternity surely.

In 2025 there will still be some on here lamenting the release of Glenn Murray, that you can be sure of...

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

9 days into the transfer window and Poyet is already banging on about loan signings and plan B's.

We've had MONTHS to sort out a striker, for f*** sake. How can one man be such a complete and utter fuckwit at filling one position?

 

[Working class pride]

It might be best to move, mightn't it. You may have had more faith in him than those in charge at the club, and it was of course a shame he went, but it's 2013 now isn't it and we can't gripe for an eternity surely.

It is not a gripe, or a moan. It is a simple matter of looking at what Poyet has done right, what he has done wrong and forming a view on Poyet. i give him about 70% with him losing marks mainly because he has failed in his buying of strikers. He is still a quality manager however but fair is fair, CMC for Murray was a poor decision. Murray was (is) a clinical finisher, intelligent and has skill, but with an individual or some say difficult temperament. CMS tries hard and is probably "a great team man". Give me talent with an individuals temperament over a bloke who tries hard and says all the right things to be a "team player" any day.

 

[Bigbelly]

9 days into the transfer window and Poyet is already banging on about loan signings and plan B's.

We've had MONTHS to sort out a strike, for f*** sake. How can one man be such a complete and utter fuckwit at filling one position?

Welcome back. We've had more than that.

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

It's beyond a joke now.

HE left 18 months ago. And the best we can manage is an argie who requires a passport to play in this country - but if he gets one, he wants to stay in Spain!!

COMPLETE SHAMBLES.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

9 days into the transfer window and Poyet is already banging on about loan signings and plan B's.

We've had MONTHS to sort out a striker, for f*** sake. How can one man be such a complete and utter fuckwit at filling one position?

Good to see you back.

Have to say Poyets record on strikers is not great.

 

[Reinelt12]

It's beyond a joke now.

HE left 18 months ago. And the best we can manage is an argie who requires a passport to play in this country - but if he gets one, he wants to stay in Spain!!

COMPLETE SHAMBLES.

Ok - name affordable strikers who have moved to Championship clubs over the past 18 months? Then remember that 23 other clubs will also potentially be after those players at the time...

Then see how many of those strikers have scored more than CMS this season...

My point being - how well have all the other 23 Championship managers done in the same time period with signing strikers?

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

Ok - name affordable strikers who have moved to Championship clubs over the past 18 months? Then remember that 23 other clubs will also potentially be after those players at the time...

Then see how many of those strikers have scored more than CMS this season...

My point being - how well have all the other 23 Championship managers done in the same time period with signing strikers?

I don't see your point.

How many of the other 23 Championship managers have failed to retain the top scorer in the league and let him go on a free?

Poyet's been after a target man for too long now, it's beyond a joke.

If anyone thinks we're getting promoted with a man whos only hit signing up front so far has been Ashley f*cking Barnes then they're delusional.

 

[Working class pride]

Ok - name affordable strikers who have moved to Championship clubs over the past 18 months? Then remember that 23 other clubs will also potentially be after those players at the time...

Then see how many of those strikers have scored more than CMS this season...

My point being - how well have all the other 23 Championship managers done in the same time period with signing strikers?

Its not what he has scored, its his ratio to chances that is important in this side as he has a midfield lining chances up, that are then missed. Murray would have scored them no doubt. That is why Poyets striker buying record is in question, and as I say, Im a Poyet fan. Superb manager but we have to be balanced and not have our blinkers on.

 

[Reinelt12]

I don't see your point.

How many of the other 23 Championship managers have failed to retain the top scorer in the league and let him go on a free?

Poyet's been after a target man for too long now, it's beyond a joke.

If anyone thinks we're getting promoted with a man whos only hit signing up front so far has been Ashley f*cking Barnes then they're delusional.

And none of the other 23 managers have a made a mistake? Every single one of them probably has... so why not answer the question instead of diverting attention away from it...

And he bought the top scorer in the league at that time remember... no one was to know that Murray would be the top scorer now..

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

And none of the other 23 managers have a made a mistake? Every single one of them probably has... so why not answer the question instead of diverting attention away from it...

And he bought the top scorer in the league at that time remember... no one was to know that Murray would be the top scorer now..

A mistake is tripping over your shoelace, not spending more money than any other Albion manager has spent on their entire squad on a strikeforce that doesn't suit your style of play and scores less goals than the one you already had.

The amount of goals he's scored isn't even the main issue. It's the hold up play, the heading of the ball, the option to go high if we're being pressed - we still don't have it, which is absolutely laughable.

And now we've put all our eggs in the basket of an Argie who needs a passport and time to settle, and who apparently wants to stay in Spain.

Well that's f***ing great isn't it.

 

[Mellotron]

I think his striker purchases, loans, and sales speak for themselves... he has pretty much fcuked-up with the strikers, which is why we don't score enough, despite creating numerous chances... if you can't see / admit that, then I pity you... do you actually watch us play?

He should NEVER have let Muzza go without a good replacement... major fcuk-up and a RELATIVELY good deal... and yes, I did say so at the time...

I also said losing Murray was a f*** up at the time. My point is people seem to think Gus is just sitting on his hands going "Tum te tum"

If the right player at the right price isn't available, what the f*** is Gus supposed to do?! Magic a player out of thin air? Clone an existing one?

 

[JBizzle]

If anyone thinks we're getting promoted with a man whos only hit signing up front so far has been Ashley f*cking Barnes then they're delusional.

Ashley Barnes doesn't play up front.

 

[Baron Pepperpot]

Ok - name affordable strikers who have moved to Championship clubs over the past 18 months? Then remember that 23 other clubs will also potentially be after those players at the time...

Then see how many of those strikers have scored more than CMS this season...

My point being - how well have all the other 23 Championship managers done in the same time period with signing strikers?

This, threads like this become embarrassing when folk think it is our God given right to have first refusal on the best strikers.

 

[Reinelt12]

A mistake is tripping over your shoelace, not spending more money than any other Albion manager has spent on their entire squad on a strikeforce that doesn't suit your style of play and scores less goals than the one you already had.

The amount of goals he's scored isn't even the main issue. It's the hold up play, the heading of the ball, the option to go high if we're being pressed - we still don't have it, which is absolutely laughable.

And now we've put all our eggs in the basket of an Argie who needs a passport and time to settle, and who apparently wants to stay in Spain.

Well that's f***ing great isn't it.

So then... which player (apart from Murray, we all ****ing know that he should have kept him, and one day you never know we might all just move on from that...) would you have signed with the exact attributes you have mentioned, who is affordable?

Or are you going to go ****ing on about Murray for the rest of your life?

 

[Finchley Seagull]

A mistake is tripping over your shoelace, not spending more money than any other Albion manager has spent on their entire squad on a strikeforce that doesn't suit your style of play and scores less goals than the one you already had.

The amount of goals he's scored isn't even the main issue. It's the hold up play, the heading of the ball, the option to go high if we're being pressed - we still don't have it, which is absolutely laughable.

And now we've put all our eggs in the basket of an Argie who needs a passport and time to settle, and who apparently wants to stay in Spain.

Well that's f***ing great isn't it.

Seriously, do you ever say anything positive or are you the most miserable person on earth? Murray left for Palace because they offered him more. This time last year it did not seem a mistake. Maybe he would be top scorer with us or maybe Palace are playing more to his style now and he would not have been great here. Who knows? It is boring that a year and a half later people are still going on about it.