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Notters

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Oct 20, 2003
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People seem to keep overlooking the fact that GUS is the key. Who knows which players would work best under him? He does, that's who.
 




B.W.

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Jul 5, 2003
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99 times out of 100, automatically promoted sides have a '20 goals plus' striker... we still need one, IMHO...
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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The Fatherland
No thanks. Great lad and good player at your level, but will not be able to cut the mustard at championship level where we will be next season, so you can keep him. No need to thank me! :thumbsup:

On this subject do you remember the days when people used to make cases for players like Tommy Frazer and Sam Rents?
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
League Two top scorers:

Le Fondre Rotherham 10
Lowe Bury 10
Robinson Shrewsbury 8
Davies Chesterfield 7
Donnelly Stockport 7

Want him back?

Actually, on consideration, yes, I'd happilly have him back. Would be very interested to see what Gus could do with him.

JR always had plenty of pace, and his shooting was second to none at the club, on his day. I reckon if Gus can improve El Abd to the extent he has, then he could have turned JR into a pretty good L1 striker. Just the type of player who should be playing off murray, too, IMO.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Also - don't ignore the defensive work that our forwards, and attacking midfielders put in.
Barnes, Murray and especially Bennett all have a hand in that miserly goals conceded column.
Good point, well made. Bennett can defend very well and Muzza wins loads in the air.
 




Lady Whistledown

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I don't want Robinson back thanks. He had several years to make an impact, and either he wasn't good enough or his attitude wasn't quite there: take your pick.

This is his second season in the fourth division and he's finally worked out how to score goals. Does this mean bigger clubs are going to be queuing up to sign him....er...in a word....NO. Good luck to the bloke but he's not going to offer the Albion anything*





*Unless all our other strikers were mysteriously swept away by a freak tornado just off the coast of Ferring, leaving us with only Gary Hart. Then I might have Robinson back.
 


hans kraay fan club

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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
99 times out of 100, automatically promoted sides have a '20 goals plus' striker... we still need one, IMHO...

Or 65 times out of 100 [13 of 20] going by the actual FACTS posted earlier in this thread...
 


B.W.

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Jul 5, 2003
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As poster before...

That just proves the point that with a very few exceptions you need someone banging in 20, or very near that figure, to hit the auto spot...
 






CHAPPERS

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Jul 5, 2003
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That just proves the point that with a very few exceptions you need someone banging in 20, or very near that figure, to hit the auto spot...

Do you think it would be fair to say that on those 'very few' (7 out of 20 very few?) the team involved would have a manager of the calibre of Gus Poyet who has this team playing as a complete unit and not relying on one player to score all their goals?

Someone do the research, I can't be arsed.
 


B.W.

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Interesting top scorers from a team that try to emulate our style of football

2010/11 Theo Walcott Arsenal 4
2009/10 Cesc Fábregas 15
2008/09 Robin van Persie 11
2007/8 Emmanuel Adebayor 24
2006/7 Thierry Henry 10

1 significant goalscorer in 5 years - could it be down to our style of play ?

And they won the league how many times in that period!?
 




Lady Whistledown

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That just proves the point that with a very few exceptions you need someone banging in 20, or very near that figure, to hit the auto spot...

Murray has four, there remains every chance that he will get 20.

Not 30, but twenty looks very do-able.
 


B.W.

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Jul 5, 2003
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Mackail-Smith - Peterborough - 8
Logan - Exeter - 6
Madine - Carlisle - 6
Mclean - Peterborough - 6
Pugh - Bournemouth - 6
Westcarr - Notts County - 6
Davies - Notts County 5
Harley - Exeter - 5
Hoskins - Bristol Rovers - 5
Hughes - Bristol Rovers - 5
Lambert - Southampton - 5
McQuoid - Bournemouth - 5
Rhodes - Huddersfield - 5
Vindelot - Dag & Red - 5
Wright-Phillips - Plymouth - 5

Lets imagine we had a striking pair of Mackail-Smith and Mclean.

I would fancy us to pick up an extra 2 points from bournemouth, an extra 2 from carlisle, and an extra 1 point from Sheff Wed. (I am leaving out Tranmere and Rochdale as a current striker scored in those games.)

But i think by having those two upfront, we would have an extra 5 points so far this season, which would put us 8 points clear. That is why it is important to have a 25+ goals a season striker, which currently, we do not have.

Our current strikers are not good enough for a team in our position, simple, Luckily for us, our defence/midfield are more than good enough.

Saying that, in a couple of years, i fully expect Barnes to be a 25+ goals a season striker at this level.

Another point i would like to make, many of the players on that list play for teams that are not doing so great this year, if they were in our team, with the service we can provide, i would expect them to have scored more.

Spot on!
 






Staly

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Mar 30, 2004
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Manchester
Actually, on consideration, yes, I'd happilly have him back. Would be very interested to see what Gus could do with him.

JR always had plenty of pace, and his shooting was second to none at the club, on his day. I reckon if Gus can improve El Abd to the extent he has, then he could have turned JR into a pretty good L1 striker. Just the type of player who should be playing off murray, too, IMO.

Last season he was pants. This season he's got much better service and a far superior manager. Helps.
 


B.W.

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Jul 5, 2003
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Yes, and he has countered that, by asking what the NET effect on the rest of the squad would be, if we'd concentrated resources on 'two very good strikers'.

Carry on.

And maybe if we hadn't wasted money on several strikers that haven't cut the mustard at our level? Who knows?
 


B.W.

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Jul 5, 2003
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Or 65 times out of 100 [13 of 20] going by the actual FACTS posted earlier in this thread...

Now try with, say, 17, which is a figure Muzza and LuaLua are on-target to miss... :thumbsup:
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
Murray is currently on course to get around 20 goals this season, so it's all a bit of a non-argument. There are plenty of goals in this team.
 




Lady Whistledown

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any striker is likely to have proved a waste of money in a team as crap as we had for much of last season.

Even Craig Davies might have done reasonably if he was playing in our current side, so it doesn't follow that we "wasted" money on him. The time and place just wasn't right for him.
 


The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
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And maybe if we hadn't wasted money on several strikers that haven't cut the mustard at our level? Who knows?

Can I assume you've identified the required striker(s), based on

(a) their ability to guarantee 20-25 goals per season
(b) their availability
(c) their willingness to come to Brighton
(d) their transfer fee
(e) their salary

... that Gus hasn't found yet?
 


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