Lancing NIMBYs

[Diego Napier]

It's amazing how easy it is for a few people with time on their hands to make it seem like there's general uproar when there really isn't, and create a nuisance of themselves. That site must have the same 10 people posting more and more irate messages about issues they know very little about, they would be better off trying to engage with BHAFC and Adur rather than slur them at any turn.

I started reading your post and thought you were referring to NSC........

 

[Worthingite]

I started reading your post and thought you were referring to NSC........

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

They do have a very weak argument...

Save Our Gap

Club should just withdraw their application and let them build a thousand new homes there instead. Hey NIMBYs, this is what you COULD have had...

 

[Stat Brother]

Luckily I saved it into Word just in case anyone asked me this!!!!

"Bringing the BHA development to Mash Barn will bring jobs, and growth to Lancing and Shoreham. I cannot see the problem people are trying to create here. It’s not like the Albion are bullying their way into buying the land up, they have followed legal guidelines and goverment policy. During the building of the American Express Community Stadium, they brought in people with the specific aim of blending a 20,000+ capacity stadium into the Downs – no mean feat!!! They have already said that they would work with the same team to blend this development in with the local surroundings as best as possible too.

Also, as far as I am aware, the use of the pitches and facilities was to be opened up to schools, youth teams and junior level football when available – another valuable commodity for the children of the area.

YES TO BHAFC’S DEVELOPMENT!!!"

Here's my, now deleted, effort:-

If you were successful in blocking the football training ground.
What would SoG do when faced with a proposal of a 1500+ housing development, of which 500 will be social housing.
A development, now that the land has been made ‘public’, will be very very hard to block, esp when taking into account the money to be made, by ALL parties.
Just ask the residents of Angmering, Lyminster et al.

How many large pieces of land are available, in Sussex, that isn’t already developed or Greenbelt. Or encompassed within the Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty, that is the South Downs.

Something will go onto the Gap land, which on a level is a shame, but BHA have moved heaven and earth to accommodate the residents of Falmer.
Not a phrase that gets leveled to often at, Taylorwimpey, Barrett, Perisommon, Bellway, the list goes on, and they are all now looking at Lancing Gap.



I see Attila is the latest person to get 'moderated'.

 

[brighton rock]

Mash barn could do a lot worse than a trainning pitch at the rear a new runway stopping at their back gardens or 500 new homes could be next

 

[Worthingite]

Here's my, now deleted, effort:-

If you were successful in blocking the football training ground.
What would SoG do when faced with a proposal of a 1500+ housing development, of which 500 will be social housing.
A development, now that the land has been made ‘public’, will be very very hard to block, esp when taking into account the money to be made, by ALL parties.
Just ask the residents of Angmering, Lyminster et al.

How many large pieces of land are available, in Sussex, that isn’t already developed or Greenbelt. Or encompassed within the Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty, that is the South Downs.

Something will go onto the Gap land, which on a level is a shame, but BHA have moved heaven and earth to accommodate the residents of Falmer.
Not a phrase that gets leveled to often at, Taylorwimpey, Barrett, Perisommon, Bellway, the list goes on, and they are all now looking at Lancing Gap.



I see Attila is the latest person to get 'moderated'.

To be fair, they have just added my post onto the site, and then some patronising fuckwit has replied to it!!

 

[Worthingite]

Dear god, they really are a bunch of patronising, brow beating nutjobs. I emphatically urge Adur Council that, if BHAFC aren't allowed to use the site, then they use it as transient parking land for travellers and gypsies. That'll f*** 'em!!

 

[Waynflete]

The council would be incredibly wrong.
If I thought that would be the end of it, I'd NiMBY my arse off, and I don't even live there.

I hate the way Arun District Council have not only thrown up 2 massive developments, but they are proposing at least 2 more.
That not to mention the 'little' ones. 3 family houses demolished 20 residences built, and so on.

But it won't be the end.
Something will now be built on that land.
There would be far to much money sloshing around for the council to turn down.

This has to be a case of 'better the devil you know'.

The SoG campaign cannot trust the council to 'do the right thing'.

I share your instincts about the council's motives, and accepting the least offensive option is one response. The radical in me, though, says make a stand! Definitely won't succeed if you don't try. I guess that's SOG's attitude, anyway.

 

[Seagull on the wing]

Just watched the video and read the letters....The video is a fine bit of propaganda.....Goebbels would've been proud....soft piano music when they show the flowers...(Did'nt see a pianist on the field)...then up goes the sound loud to show footballers screaming and shouting.
The letters ...well you have to feel sorry for all those sick and stressed residents at Marsh Barn...they need the land for the health and to relieve stress....Hang on....they've got the land at the moment...so how come they are so ill and stressed?

 

[Sheebo]

Like how 1 person on there also slagged off the Amex, saying its "destroyed" Falmer - rather than its gave a football club, which is a very big part of Brighton - a new home, given a lot of LOCAL people new jobs and is further putting Brighton on the map. Was just fields anyway - much like this site in Lancing.

Thank god we dont have people like these in charge of the country, NOTHING would ever be built.

Oh there is 100% no WAY any of the Falmer NIMBY'S main worries / moans have happened. It was clearly the right decision - look at the local community / amount of people who are enjoying the amex!

 

[British Bulldog]

When is the Planning Permission Application due to be heard.

It's looking like it will be on the 1st October.

 

[Worthingite]

As a heads up, the moderators of that page are now looking at NSC, and using our comments on here as propaganda. I think they've taken a dislike to me calling them nutjobs.

I had been polite to them initially, but their patronising and chiding tone annoyed me to the point where, to be honest, they deserve the abuse they get IMO. The people that run the site seem to have no ability to reason - it's their way or the highway.

We've been rumbled lads

 

[GreersElbow]

Is Lancing really a village? I just thought it was a town on the outskirts of Brighton. Their campaign doesn't appear to have any substance, just a few people who want to make themselves feel important and a part of something. Unfortunately for them, that something is being a prick.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

Dear god, they really are a bunch of patronising, brow beating nutjobs. I emphatically urge Adur Council that, if BHAFC aren't allowed to use the site, then they use it as transient parking land for travellers and gypsies. That'll f*** 'em!!

Maybe we could get an agreement with our good friends up at Palace to use the site whilst they are down here in a few months for the away game.

Sobbing about a 5-0 demolishion and certain relegation would be a lot more annoying than a training ground for a growing Football Club which is part of the community, giving local people jobs, local companies contracts to build the actual thing and encouraging young people to get into sport and support the Albion.

I mean its that or Tesco.

 

[Jam The Man]

As a heads up, the moderators of that page are now looking at NSC, and using our comments on here as propaganda. I think they've taken a dislike to me calling them nutjobs.

I had been polite to them initially, but their patronising and chiding tone annoyed me to the point where, to be honest, they deserve the abuse they get IMO. The people that run the site seem to have no ability to reason - it's their way or the highway.

We've been rumbled lads

The mods on there are deleting constructive comments right, left and centre. Democracy is lost on them.
Besides they have referred to the Albion as 'idots', so if they want to complain about petty name calling, THEY started it. So nerrrrr!

 

[Waynflete]

The people that run the site seem to have no ability to reason - it's their way or the highway.

Pots and kettles?

 

[BensGrandad]

Is Lancing really a village? I just thought it was a town on the outskirts of Brighton.

If you go to wikipedia for the largest village in the UK it says there are many contenders of which Lancing is one but it now disputes their claim as they are part of an urban suburb rather than being a village.

 

[British Bulldog]

As a heads up, the moderators of that page are now looking at NSC, and using our comments on here as propaganda. I think they've taken a dislike to me calling them nutjobs.

I had been polite to them initially, but their patronising and chiding tone annoyed me to the point where, to be honest, they deserve the abuse they get IMO. The people that run the site seem to have no ability to reason - it's their way or the highway.

We've been rumbled lads

They've been watching NSC for longer than that site has been going, They even reported NSC to the police earlier in the year for people supposedly making threats against them. I read the thread in question many times before it got removed and apart from a tongue n cheek mention of a bucket of water over someone's head there was nothing even approaching a threat.

 

[Uter]

A lot of their unhappiness seems to stem from their belief that the academy is the thin end of the wedge and will lead to further development of the gap:

"Having set a precedent of allowing development of the Strategic Gap, the next stage will be a massive development of up to 1,200 house together with retail and industrial units. This next-stage development is mentioned no less than three times throughout the BHAFC planning application."

Firstly can any weight in planning decisions be given to the notion that it may encourage subsequent planning applications in the same vicinity? Seems a bit woolly and speculative. You could use that argument against most planning applications couldn't you (including the houses they live in)? Seems a bit unfair not to judge a planning application on it's own merits.

Secondly, they refer with cast iron certainty to a 1200 house development. What is this? Is it real, or just an example of what they think will happen?

Thirdly, I looked through the planning application documents for the academy and I couldn't see any reference to this 1200 house development, yet they say it is referred to 3 times. Did I miss it?

 

[Waynflete]

A lot of their unhappiness seems to stem from their belief that the academy is the thin end of the wedge and will lead to further development of the gap:

"Having set a precedent of allowing development of the Strategic Gap, the next stage will be a massive development of up to 1,200 house together with retail and industrial units. This next-stage development is mentioned no less than three times throughout the BHAFC planning application."

Firstly can any weight in planning decisions be given to the notion that it may encourage subsequent planning applications in the same vicinity? Seems a bit woolly and speculative. You could use that argument against most planning applications couldn't you (including the houses they live in)? Seems a bit unfair not to judge a planning application on it's own merits.

Secondly, they refer with cast iron certainty to a 1200 house development. What is this? Is it real, or just an example of what they think will happen?

Thirdly, I looked through the planning application documents for the academy and I couldn't see any reference to this 1200 house development, yet they say it is referred to 3 times. Did I miss it?

I don't think they mean the application refers to 1200 houses, rather that it refers three times to 'next stage development', implying that the initial development will not be the end of the process.

I also think their concern is largely about the site passing from public into private ownership - thereby reducing control over how the site is used in future.