[Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

[Rdodge30]

It’s all just distractions and whilst anyone technically in the wrong etc etc - she’s not the first and she’s not going to be the last.

This is one of the reasons why they are all the same - another being they will all say anything to get in power and then back track the second they get through the door

But none of this matters - it’s the policies that matter. This, like the wording of the manifesto is just a distraction

 

[nevergoagain]

Times reporting that her employer at the time Aviva reported her to cops after she claimed multiple phones had gone ‘missing’. Fun fact, she was Policing Minister under Corbyn

So is it one phone or multiple ?, do you really get a conviction for fraud for reporting a phone as being stolen and then finding it again and would a company like Aviva really report an employee to the police if it was just that ?. Truth will come out at some stage.

 

[ROSM]

Starmer apponted her to HIS cabinet when Labour won the election in July. Are you now saying he didn't know (or she didn't tell him....)

I don't know. We haven't seen any evidence either way

 

[nicko31]

It’s all just distractions and whilst anyone technically in the wrong etc etc - she’s not the first and she’s not going to be the last.

This is one of the reasons why they are all the same - another being they will all say anything to get in power and then back track the second they get through the door

But none of this matters - it’s the policies that matter. This, like the wording of the manifesto is just a distraction

They're not all the same, Labour aren't gunning to be the UK arm of Trumpism. If anything the gap has widened

 

[Rdodge30]

They're not all the same, Labour aren't gunning to be the UK arm of Trumpism. If anything the gap has widened

In some respects they really are all the same - namely saying one thing in opposition and another once in government

 

[nevergoagain]

I don't know. We haven't seen any evidence either way

Well all the news outlets including the Guardian are saying she disclosed this when she joined the Shadow cabinet in 2020 so I think it's fairly certain he did know.

 

[ROSM]

Well all the news outlets including the Guardian are saying she disclosed this when she joined the Shadow cabinet in 2020 so I think it's fairly certain he did know.

She joined the shadow cabinet in 2018

 

[Since1982]

They're not all the same, Labour aren't gunning to be the UK arm of Trumpism. If anything the gap has widened

Agree. And I don't understand this view that on tax they have gone back on what said pre election.

 

[nevergoagain]

She joined the shadow cabinet in 2018

OK, when she joined Starmers shadow cabinet then in 2020.

 

[ROSM]

OK, when she joined Starmers shadow cabinet then in 2020.

Hence my point, we don't know if she advised JC and thought she didn't need to tell KS. We don't know if she advised both but maybe didn't cover everything. So it's all just conjecture

 

[Is it PotG?]

Agree. And I don't understand this view that on tax they have gone back on what said pre election.

 

[worthingweird]

Hence my point, we don't know if she advised JC and thought she didn't need to tell KS. We don't know if she advised both but maybe didn't cover everything. So it's all just conjecture

Wrongun...

 

[Lenny Rider]

OK, when she joined Starmers shadow cabinet then in 2020.

It just said on BBC Radio 2 10am news (so it must be true) that she told Starmer everything prior her appointment to the Shadow Cabinet, so why go now?

 

[Right Brain Ronnie]

In some respects they really are all the same - namely saying one thing in opposition and another once in government

Yep and the spot light will shine so well on them that there is plenty more to come.
Can you image if some on here became MPs and got into government, just think of the dark secret stories that would appear all over X within a few days!

 

[Right Brain Ronnie]

It just said on BBC Radio 2 10am news (so it must be true) that she told Starmer everything prior her appointment to the Shadow Cabinet, so why go now?

Interesting, what is just as interesting the Vernon on radio 2 this morning was confessing his frozen pizza throwing antics at uni parties back in the day, it will be extremely hard cheese if he gets the axe for this.

 

[Since1982]

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Spare me the silliness and give me facts, then I might be persuaded by your position. I'm open to a fact based discussion.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Spare me the silliness and give me facts, then I might be persuaded by your position. I'm open to a fact based discussion.

The tax rises will affect working people, contrary to the manifesto.

 

[Since1982]

The tax rises will affect working people, contrary to the manifesto.

The manifesto was clear that Labour would not increase national insurance (and it was clear that this referred to the reductions in employee NI the last govt introduced i.e. paid by "working people"), the basic, higher or additional rates of income tax, or VAT (the three biggest revenue-generating taxes). They haven't (at least not yet). Employer NI, IHT etc had no such pledges.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Can't beat a bit of Scottish satire

 

[nevergoagain]

So Haigh is entitled to nearly £17k severance pay for 5 months ministerial service and resigning. Ridiculous rules at parliament for all.