He called him a ****. Strauss said exactly the same about KP.
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KP stirring things up...
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He thought Moores was useless, and he was right.
Can Broad be trusted as he was involved with the KPGenius Twitter account?
Well he's been appointed twice by the ECB and had success at county level, so someone doesn't think he's useless.
I don't think anything will sway us from our completely opposite views on this...
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Absolutely, we should be focussing on things we can agree on
Bloom out, Barber out, sack the board!
OzMike
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You should have sat there, at the WACA, with all the England supporters watching, as he got all four of the last batsmen out save his average, as it was obvious we were not going to win.
He didn't even try and let the tailenders face all the bowling.
It was deliberate, obvious and pitiful and I made my feelings known on a drunken filmed interview carried out after the match, it was posted on here somewhere once.
Also at one of his early interviews, when asked how privileged he felt to play for England responded with, "well, it's nice to have a million pounds in the bank."
He can ***k off and if he does return, I will start to support India, my mother's country of birth.
Did he run them all out?
Funny though when the book came out, very few (if any) current or ex-players sided with KP, which says it all.
In terms of Broad my recollection is that wasn't proved one way or another.
OzMike
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Warne is an idiot and a clown, but he would have never have done what KP did in an important game.
Absolutely, we should be focussing on things we can agree on
Bloom out, Barber out, sack the board!
[emoji3] sorry previous post had crossed..... Just want some signings and hope....
OzMike
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Might just as well have done.
If he was facing the next over, he would hit the ball to get one run, even though there was an easy two or three, he would only run one and refuse to run for the rest of the over, or only run one run on the last ball of the over, so that he wouldn't have to face the next over.
It was so obvious, Monty Panasar was having a go at him about it between overs, even we in the stands could see he was shouting at him, but KP just carried on doing it till he was the last man standing.
So he was not out and his average not affected.
Great sportsman? or money grabbing self obsessed prat.
I was all for him till this happened and I saw the interview, from then on never watched any of his innings.
Out of order that
In England? I'd have Cook over Warner for sure (not in Australia though). And I'd certainly pick Stokes over Marsh. I'd probably have Buttler over Nevill too - although that was a pretty good debut. But I wouldn't have Jimmy, the Aussie attack has looked more threatening than the English one - they didn't get it right in the first innings at Cardiff but since then they've been on the money
Not so sure about Cook. His scores against Australia in England are 10,6,95,32,0,30,30,10,9,13,50,12,8,62,0,51,22,25,34,20,12,96,11 at an average of 27.
Warner averages 32 over 10 innings, so there's not much in it.Cook has the better average, in England, overall and has has had to carry some partners while he's been playing though. I'd definitely pick him over Warner - he hasn't got a terrible moustache for one thing
Warner averages 32 over 10 innings, so there's not much in it.Cook has the better average, in England, overall and has has had to carry some partners while he's been playing though. I'd definitely pick him over Warner - he hasn't got a terrible moustache for one thing
Agree about the 'tache.
Warner can change a game, Cook can't.
As for Stokes v Marsh, not a lot to choose. Both are suspect batting and expensive bowling.
Bold Seagull
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The Warner over Cook debate is interesting as openers they are so different. They'd actually be a formidable pairing given their attributes probably do compliment each other.
This is something England need to think about. Cook can bat all day, but he doesn't put a bowling attack under any early pressure (unless they bowl real toilet at him). In all the looking at averages / stats etc. Sometimes you need to just assess who is going to compliment whom.
This was none more so relevant than when Trescothick first batted with Vaughan. Vaughan; elegant, fluid, beautiful technique and shot maker, Trescothick; upright, minimal movement, but thumping attacking shots against a new ball.
If you had to make a choice between Warner and Cook, it would surely only be relevant to who the other opener would to be?
This is something England need to think about. Cook can bat all day, but he doesn't put a bowling attack under any early pressure (unless they bowl real toilet at him). In all the looking at averages / stats etc. Sometimes you need to just assess who is going to compliment whom.
This was none more so relevant than when Trescothick first batted with Vaughan. Vaughan; elegant, fluid, beautiful technique and shot maker, Trescothick; upright, minimal movement, but thumping attacking shots against a new ball.
If you had to make a choice between Warner and Cook, it would surely only be relevant to who the other opener would to be?
*KP in being a massively divisive dickhead shocker*
Having looked the match up. England were chasing 557 to win, and at the start of the day England were 265/5 with KP and Flintoff at the crease. Flintoff tried to smash the Aussies around and was out shortly after the start of play, leaving KP with the tail. Given that he faced 150 balls in his innings it seems a bit extreme to claim that he was trying to get his fellow team mates out.
Further analysis shows that of the tail, Geraint Jones was run out, and Harmison was out first ball, so I don't see how KP is responsible for both of these.
This was the tour when England captain Flintoff turned up to matches and net sessions drunk. Yet he is seen as a lovable oaf.