[Politics] Keir Starmer

[Herr Tubthumper]

You wouldn’t get this sort of behaviour from the landlord of a nice craft beer bar. In fact, here’s Kier enjoying a nice peaceful pint in Brewdog beer last year. Cheers Kier!

 

[Deleted member 22389]

I don't think any government or politician should be blamed for this, it's absolutely pointless, you can't turn back time. Hopefully we can return to some normal.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

How does it feel to be in the upper 10% looking down at us ignorant uneducated morons?


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Enlightening.
The landlord is on breakfast TV this morning, he is as mad as a box of frogs.
He is a covidiot not a covid denier and said that anyone who has died of covid over the age of 83 is irrelevant.
He thinks that Starmer should have opposed the lockdown because he is the opposition
I bet he moans when the opposition oppose everything else in other matters just for the sake of it as they often do.

 

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He was manhandled by the security chap which is a serious offence against a licensee on his premises as covered by the licensing act. He fully has the right to stop anyone from entering his premises and use force as deemed fit. He's a twit but if I was him I'd call the police as he has the evidence on camera he was assaulted.

Really? He was prevented from getting 'in the face' of Starmer with his covidiot ranting.

The guy's been made to like a pratt on GMB this morning and even his business partner is distancing himself from his comments.

 

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What point are you trying to make? Is it that by you posting a BBC article dated 13th October that proves your comment that it was discussed later in Oct despite the document I posted clearly showing it was raised in Sept and even recommended a two week lockdown from 28th Sept!!!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I have a feeling that the ranting anti-lockdown landlord will lose credibility by the hour as this story develops. His business partner at the boozer has already been doing his best dissociate the pub with his views.

Good call, have you seen his GMB performance?

 

[nwgull]

Good call, have you seen his GMB performance?

Yes, he's clearly got carried away with getting his 15 minutes of fame and the support of a small minority of vocal covidiots and is now being shown to be completely out of his depth and slightly unhinged.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

He was manhandled by the security chap which is a serious offence against a licensee on his premises as covered by the licensing act. He fully has the right to stop anyone from entering his premises and use force as deemed fit. He's a twit but if I was him I'd call the police as he has the evidence on camera he was assaulted.

I find it hard to believe a licensee can “stop anyone” entering their premises? Surely they need good reason otherwise they literally have license to discriminate against anyone they choose.

Also, I would have thought licensees have a duty to maintain order in their premises and NOT the exact opposite?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

He was manhandled by the security chap which is a serious offence against a licensee on his premises as covered by the licensing act. He fully has the right to stop anyone from entering his premises and use force as deemed fit. He's a twit but if I was him I'd call the police as he has the evidence on camera he was assaulted.

The security chap is the police.

 

[A1X]

Enlightening.
The landlord is on breakfast TV this morning, he is as mad as a box of frogs.
He is a covidiot not a covid denier and said that anyone who has died of covid over the age of 83 is irrelevant.
He thinks that Starmer should have opposed the lockdown because he is the opposition
I bet he moans when the opposition oppose everything else in other matters just for the sake of it as they often do.

Man I'd be really embarrassed if I had been supporting or defending him yesterday on the back of this.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

He was manhandled by the security chap which is a serious offence against a licensee on his premises as covered by the licensing act.

The security chap is the police.

Licensee having to be restrained by police from approaching an elected member of parliament. I’d say this is a very serious offense.

 

[LamieRobertson]

licensee restrained by one of Starmers entourage after Starmer stupidly enters premises of same uninvited ...is member of Parliament savvy enough to deal with situations like this

I guess I could have put Kier in there as you seem on first name terms

 

[LamieRobertson]

Really? He was prevented from getting 'in the face' of Starmer with his covidiot ranting.

The guy's been made to like a pratt on GMB this morning and even his business partner is distancing himself from his comments.

GMB...lol says enough ..wow what a creditable program

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I guess I could have put Kier in there as you seem on first name terms

I always use first names with my fellow comrades and socialists.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Licensee having to be restrained by police from approaching an elected member of parliament. I’d say this is a very serious offense.

Wow ....perhaps Starmer could have actually stayed out of his pub ...amount of restraint was totally over the top...nothing new there I guess

 

[Bozza]

““I have been a Labour voter my entire life, you have failed to be the Opposition. Thousands of people have died because you have failed to do your job and ask the real questions.”

How the hell can this twit lay the blame for the tens of thousands of needless deaths with Sir Kier? What a plum. I see the pub’s other co-owner has distanced himself from this bellend.

Your boy Owen Jones kinda agrees if that helps: "Labour, meanwhile, has done little to make the Tories face up to their pandemic efforts" - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/04/keir-starmer-vision-labour-victory

 

[Bozza]

Rafael Behr has been less than impressed on Starmer's performance during this time also: "Starmer’s difficulties were illustrated by a speech he gave on Monday, or rather it was illustrative of his problem that no one noticed the speech – a fully itemised account of Johnson’s failings. There were some personal notes and one bland, off-the-shelf nugget of emotional uplift. (“A dark winter will give way to a brighter spring.”) But mostly it sounded as if it had been composed on a spreadsheet." - https://www.theguardian.com/comment...tarmer-voters-labour-tory-boris-johnson-covid

 

[CHAPPERS]

Rafael Behr has been less than impressed on Starmer's performance during this time also: "Starmer’s difficulties were illustrated by a speech he gave on Monday, or rather it was illustrative of his problem that no one noticed the speech – a fully itemised account of Johnson’s failings. There were some personal notes and one bland, off-the-shelf nugget of emotional uplift. (“A dark winter will give way to a brighter spring.”) But mostly it sounded as if it had been composed on a spreadsheet." - https://www.theguardian.com/comment...tarmer-voters-labour-tory-boris-johnson-covid

Though he does go on to say

It is probably unfair to expect Starmer to have achieved much more than he has done given the constraints of the job. It is an achievement not to have been written off as a tiresome irrelevance in the pandemic. He prosecutes government incompetence well, which is to be expected since he was director of public prosecution before he was an MP.

But that is not enough. A list of the government’s failings is not a reason to support Labour. Starmer will one day have to narrate a journey to a better Britain, not just add columns to the spreadsheet of gloom.

 

[Weststander]

What point are you trying to make? Is it that by you posting a BBC article dated 13th October that proves your comment that it was discussed later in Oct despite the document I posted clearly showing it was raised in Sept and even recommended a two week lockdown from 28th Sept!!!

1. You found an obscure government document where circuit breakers were mentioned.

2. They did not become a big talking point in society and governments until mid Oct.

3. You mentioned them as something Boris should’ve done.

4. They don’t solve new waves of covid. NSC and The Guardian championed Wales for having one. Weeks later Wales had the highest covid death rate in Europe.

5. They’re a very short term sticking plaster, with many people simply doing as they please the moment they end. Without vaccines, sustained lockdowns are the only way to deal with new covid waves.

 

[portslade seagull]

Starmer must be doing something right as YouGov have a 14pt lead for the Tories at the moment