It's the fans fault that home games are crap apparently...

[ROSM]

Re: Re: Re: It's the fans fault that home games are crap apparently...

A bit harsh, as generally speaking my OPINION is nothing more than that - and that is my understanding of the Withdean situation. My memory as a TEN YEAR OLD boy was of sitting in the (Withdean) North Stand with shivers sent down my spine coming from the whole of the South Stand in front of me. I don't know the ins and outs, but i was lead to believe that that was the case. And i am CERTAIN that it was much better then atmosphere-wise than it is now. Surely it'd be better if the club actively approached the problem a bit, instead of using the 'Withdean is not a football ground' argument for the Falmer debate, whilst ignoring the fact that people are staying away because of the atmosphere problem?

sorry I read it that you writing as fact. If it's OPINION then okay.

But whoever was leading you has misled you.

As for the atmosphere, I think it was better during the two championships and Coppell. The first season was very poor at times but has been worse this year than ever before.

what would you suggest is done? The club have x number of employees so it is likely that fans will have better ideas just due to the sheer weight if numbers thinking of them.

 

[plymouth nige]

The fact that this is our third losing season in a row does'nt help the case - morale is low all round. It really pisses me off having people around me moaning all the time, the way someone will pick on one player (seems to be Loft at the moment!) and whatever he tries to do, slags him off. How does that help the team perform? It is a very young team and as such needs lots of encouragement, not loud moans every time a pass goes astray. I had serious thoughts about not renewing my season ticket - not because of the team but because of the moaning gits around me. View from the North Stand Centre!!

wcnige

 

[NMH]

It is a factor in every ground in Britian, when a club is not exactly 'setting the league alight'.
AeA expressing this, only goes to show that he is frustrated as the fans, and that he wants The Albion to succeed as much or more than most.

Come on, show SUPPORT for Adam, the bloke is a bloody Brighton LEGEND and putting his heart and soul into it.
He deserves support, and so do Coxy, Jake, Guy, Sam and all the players.

The ONLY people to be booing at, are the tossers who don't get behind the team but get on top of them. They can f*** off and support Chelsea, or even palace for all we could do with them.

 

[British Bulldog]

I can tolerate a few bad games if the players are still trying and putting the effort into it but what I cant stand is being surrounded by whingers and moaners. If the game is'nt going well or a few players are having a bad game then I can see it with my own eye's, I dont need to keep hearing it from a bunch of whinging moaning gits who only seem to be happy when they're miserable.

 

[dougdeep]

If the whole ground made as much noise as H block, there would be nothing to discuss.

 

[Nemesis]

El Abd is spot on

No he isn't, and to blame the fans for the lack of atmosphere and for the dross we get served up is well out of order.

We have had THREE seasons of crap performances IN A ROW. THAT is why there's no atmosphere these days. Sod all to cheer about.

Now a player is publicly blaming US-well done El Abd, I'll use your logic when renewing my season ticket...I'll blame you and your team mates for not lifting me enough to bother.

 

[Stinky Kat]

I find it very difficult to sing my heart out in V block when the stewards insist I sit down even though my seat is in the back row. I know its wishing for the impossible but to get an atmosphere at Withdean you need standing areas so you sre with your mates or like minded choirists and you sing

 

[NMH]

No he isn't, and to blame the fans for the lack of atmosphere and for the dross we get served up is well out of order.

We have had THREE seasons of crap performances IN A ROW. THAT is why there's no atmosphere these days. Sod all to cheer about.

Now a player is publicly blaming US-well done El Abd, I'll use your logic when renewing my season ticket...I'll blame you and your team mates for not lifting me enough to bother.

No, you are right, the fans have done enough simply by paying to get in, and turning up for the game.
The players are getting paid, and the ££ are incentive for them.

el-Abd should APPRECIATE his part in this scheme, get on with things and play for the shirt, just like Ashley Cole.

There, I see your point, and raise you.

 

[Dave the OAP]

El Abd is spot on, who wants to put in maximum effort for a bunch of whingers? I remember the Goldstone days when the singing from the North Stand could be heard as you walked towards the ground well before kick off and the noise was electric when the players came ot. You're lucky if anyone even bothers with a bit of applause these days.

I've not been to more than half a dozen home games this season and having been surrounded by whingers every time. I can't really be arsed to drive over a hundred mile round trip to listen to whining fuckers supposedly supporting the team. These people are one of the main reasons for falling attendances as far as I'm concerned.

the answer is a ROOF

where ever we go where there is a good atmosphere, it isd because there is a roof where the sound is channeled.

BUT this is never going to happen, so until Falmer is granted, we are f***ed.

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

its all a bit bollocks though innert?


i mean, these guys grew up playing in front of a couple of hundred people MAXIMUM

did they play shit then? was there not enough atmosphere for them then?

 

[Freddie Goodwin.]

But the fans have tried. look at the Donny game, fans were all up for it, kids section & East were making some real noise as well as those in the singing section....but they can't cheer for 90 mins when there's nothing to cheer.

And that's been the way of it for these last 2-3 seasons at Withdean. We WANT to cheer but there's so little to cheer.

Most of us don't expect our team to be world beaters. most of us can take defeat if they see that our boys have had a right good go. sadly that's often not been the case.

The team can do it, when they want to. They've prooved that. Let's see them be a little more professional and address each game in the same way, with passion, pride and a will to win.

That we can all cheer.

As for impoving Withdeam, make the East £15.00 per game so at least there'll be some 'affordable' seats available and fans who go there try to make some noise.

 

[Icy Gull]

Re: Re: It's the fans fault that home games are crap apparently...

sorry - couldn't let this pass.

As someone who worked with the club on the withdean plans, I am constantly AMAZED by the absolute TOSH spoken on here by the same old people.

In year one at withdean there were no formal singing sections and many times the atmosphere was poor. I actually had to answer questions about it on BBC SCR after the first game against Forest.

Micky Adams constantly complained (e.g against hartlepool) and it was the SUPPORTERS who suggested singing sections. As supporters in the middle blocks were unwilling to give up their seats, the club were faced with a challenge and in consultation with supporters the decision was made to offer snging sections at the west end of the north and south stands. NOBODY was compulsarily moved.

That is EXACTLY how I remember it and that's because that is EXACTLY what happened

 

[Dave the OAP]

Talking of noise and atmosphere....I cant remember if I posted this before but Catt complained to the Environmental Health people about the noise the kiddies blowing the horns made and they had to come along and measure it!!!

 

[NMH]

its all a bit bollocks though innert?


i mean, these guys grew up playing in front of a couple of hundred people MAXIMUM

did they play shit then? was there not enough atmosphere for them then?

Riiiight! and ten or twenty people out of those couple of hundred used to berate, boo, and insult them, so they learned to play better. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

 

[NMH]

the answer is a ROOF

where ever we go where there is a good atmosphere, it isd because there is a roof where the sound is channeled.

BUT this is never going to happen, so until Falmer is granted, we are f***ed.

A roof? So, maybe perfect acoustics like a recording studio would make us kings of Europe?

Mr Dick Knight - make it SO

 

[Hercules Rockerfeller]

I can't be arsed to read all the responses so apologies if this has already been said, but we pay to be there, they get paid to be there. If ya don't like it, go a get a job in Maccie D's El Abd cos you don't seem to have a lot going on up top so you should thank your lucky stars for your limited footballing ability which is making you a half decent living.

 

[Dave the OAP]

A roof? So, maybe perfect acoustics like a recording studio would make us kings of Europe?

Mr Dick Knight - make it SO

pithy, but not unexpected.

its all about noise....people complain like hell of the "morgue withdean" factor

Even Harty with his campaign about moving the stands nearer the pitch by ripping up the track was alluding to it.

Take Orient, yes ok we stuffed them, but even before we scored, the noise made by the fans was deafening, because there was a roof and sides to the stand which channeled the noise......at the moment the sound just goes up into the ether

 

[British Bulldog]

I'll use your logic when renewing my season ticket...I'll blame you and your team mates for not lifting me enough to bother.

Why does that sort of statement allways get thrown into the equasion during these threads? Is being a season ticket holder some kind of a status symbol?

 

[dougdeep]

Is being a season ticket holder some kind of a status symbol?

Yes, yes it is.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

Sorry WW, am afraid I have to agree with El Abd. The crowd at Withdean has evolved over the years, and it's not what it used to be. We're far too negative and whingey these days. Away crowds, on the other hand, are still full of passion (on the whole), get behind the team and are that cliched 12th man.