[Albion] “It’s exciting to be a Brighton fan at the moment”

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Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
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Dicking around at the back is just about the first thing you get taught not to do in junior school football. It's all risk, minimal reward. Not a lot has changed since junior school football
I don't think you will win this argument. But kudos for keeping it going.
 


Whitechapel

Famous Last Words
Jul 19, 2014
4,409
Not in Whitechapel
Yes indeed. It's an utterly fatuous line of thinking

Unfortunately despite watching the game for decades and posting about it online for years some people actually don’t understand the game at all beyond the very basics.

That and the fact some people need to feel like they were always right means our style of football could lead us to the Europa League and people on here would moan that if we’d done things differently we might have made the Champions League.

There are people on this forum who think ‘drawing the press’ results in a sketch of a journalist, and sadly that’ll never change.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,323
If you hoof the ball and their CBs win the ball and they score 20 seconds later, the just-hoof-it-strategy costs just as much as if you f*** up playing it from the back and they score 5 seconds later.

It seems Pep Guardiola, GP, Klopp, Arteta, De Zerbi and so forth have realised this, and there is a small chance that some or all of these might have more knowledge about the game than your junior school football coach.
I'm pretty sure that if you sat any proven EPL defender down and asked them (under cloak of anonymity) whether their preference is to clear their lines or dick around at the back, then the vast majority would opt for the former. It's what every defender always got taught all the way through their formative years until it's instinctive. Fair play to them tho for following orders to the contrary, even tho dicking around at the back clearly goes against the grain and few look comfortable doing it
 






WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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I'm pretty sure that if you sat any proven EPL defender down and asked them (under cloak of anonymity) whether their preference is to clear their lines or dick around at the back, then the vast majority would opt for the former. It's what every defender always got taught all the way through their formative years until it's instinctive. Fair play to them tho for following orders to the contrary, even tho dicking around at the back clearly goes against the grain and few look comfortable doing it
You know those astronauts who used to go into deep hibernation for years in those old sci fi movies to distant planets ?

That's you, that is :wink:
 








Swansman

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May 13, 2019
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I'm pretty sure that if you sat any proven EPL defender down and asked them (under cloak of anonymity) whether their preference is to clear their lines or dick around at the back, then the vast majority would opt for the former. It's what every defender always got taught all the way through their formative years until it's instinctive. Fair play to them tho for following orders to the contrary, even tho dicking around at the back clearly goes against the grain and few look comfortable doing it
Umm no, because most PL defenders didn't grow up playing in 1960s England.

Its not what every defender got taught that they should do. You think Ajax told a nine-year-old Veltman to just kick the ball as far as he could? They didn't.
You think Chelseas obscenely expensive academy with coaches from all over the world wanted a 8-year-old Levi Colwill to just kick the ball into the opposing half any time he got it? They didn't.

You are wrong. As always. Because there exists a world in which where you are not the centre of the universe, and in that world not everything works as it did for you back in 1967.
 


Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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Up and Coming Sunny Portslade
I'm pretty sure that if you sat any proven EPL defender down and asked them (under cloak of anonymity) whether their preference is to clear their lines or dick around at the back, then the vast majority would opt for the former. It's what every defender always got taught all the way through their formative years until it's instinctive. Fair play to them tho for following orders to the contrary, even tho dicking around at the back clearly goes against the grain and few look comfortable doing it
But it’s not dicking around. It has a purpose. The only purpose of hoofing it clear is to lose the ball.

Pub centre backs may prefer to hoof it but I’m pretty sure when you’re good enough to play professionally you want to play football, not whack it willy nilly. And, as a former pub centre back I used to love opponents just hoofing it. Guaranteed we’d get a throw and be able to start another attack or it was going to be a nice header to win instead of being out of position or dumped on my backside
 




Popeye

I Don't Exercise
Nov 12, 2021
583
North Carolina USA
It really is. Not been a supporter as long as practically everyone else on here haha, so can't really say about bad times were in the past pre Bloom and such. However, in the short amount of time I have been a fan, this is the most excited that I have found myself. The sky's the limit with RDZ and TB in control I fully mean that. If you can't get excited now as an Albion fan, than you never will.
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Charlton had a feel of a pre-season game where they were slightly ahead of us in their preparations for the new season.
There was more than a touch of preseason friendly to today's opponents, as well.
 


Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,468
Mid Sussex
I'm pretty sure that if you sat any proven EPL defender down and asked them (under cloak of anonymity) whether their preference is to clear their lines or dick around at the back, then the vast majority would opt for the former. It's what every defender always got taught all the way through their formative years until it's instinctive. Fair play to them tho for following orders to the contrary, even tho dicking around at the back clearly goes against the grain and few look comfortable doing
I'm pretty sure that if you sat any proven EPL defender down and asked them (under cloak of anonymity) whether their preference is to clear their lines or dick around at the back, then the vast majority would opt for the former. It's what every defender always got taught all the way through their formative years until it's instinctive. Fair play to them tho for following orders to the contrary, even tho dicking around at the back clearly goes against the grain and few look comfortable doing it
You are Mickey Adams and I claim my fiver.
 








junior

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Dec 1, 2003
6,633
Didsbury, Manchester
I'm pretty sure that if you sat any proven EPL defender down and asked them (under cloak of anonymity) whether their preference is to clear their lines or dick around at the back, then the vast majority would opt for the former. It's what every defender always got taught all the way through their formative years until it's instinctive. Fair play to them tho for following orders to the contrary, even tho dicking around at the back clearly goes against the grain and few look comfortable doing it
Rubbish.

So you think Dunk would prefer to be known as a hoof merchant? Or do you think he likes it when commentators compare him to a Man City defender?
 








Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Umm no, because most PL defenders didn't grow up playing in 1960s England.

Its not what every defender got taught that they should do. You think Ajax told a nine-year-old Veltman to just kick the ball as far as he could? They didn't.
You think Chelseas obscenely expensive academy with coaches from all over the world wanted a 8-year-old Levi Colwill to just kick the ball into the opposing half any time he got it? They didn't.

You are wrong. As always. Because there exists a world in which where you are not the centre of the universe, and in that world not everything works as it did for you back in 1967.
You never witnessed the Albion at Withdean. This was early 2000's. Poyet literally taught T.Elphick and Adam El-Abd not to hoof, but to at least play the ball on the ground. It was pitifully painful to watch. They'd play the ball ever-so-tentatively sideways to each other, (in H block we used to openly take the piss "To YOU Tommy! To YOU Adam!"). After they'd done that half a dozen times to satisfy Poyet, clearly hating every uncomfortable minute, they'd pass it back to Ankergren, who would then of course hoof it upfield as far as he could. Total football right there! :lolol:
 


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