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Is Micky Right To Call Some Brighton Fans IDIOTS

Well....

  • Yes - he was right to do so

    Votes: 59 55.1%
  • No - he was wrong

    Votes: 44 41.1%
  • Fence

    Votes: 4 3.7%

  • Total voters
    107


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,358
Although I think it was wrong these "fans" did what they did before kick off, to come out in public and call them idiots is a bit on the wrong side for me.

Not another stick to beat Adams with in my opinion, but still a pretty foolish thing to do

Andy Naylor didn't do Micky any favours by quoting that.

But there is an element of bear-baiting about Micky's situation now which is pretty unedifying. Seems to me there's muppets winding the manager up just for the sake of it, a sort of alternative pre-match entertainment to watching Gully's Girls. Fair enough to have a pop at the end of the game, or even during the game, depending on the performance. But not before the game has even started.
 




El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
40,013
Pattknull med Haksprut
Shows Micky really is in denial as to how bad it's got? Can he really not see that this season has been a complete DISASTER in almost every way imaginable?

It's been a disaster in the league, but on the Falmer front it has been very positive, we've had some half decent cup matches, and are 90 minutes from seeing the Albion play at the new Wembley for the first time.

So I wouldn't say complete disaster in every way imaginable, we're not in the relegation zone.........yet.
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,479
Brighton
By all means give him stick after the match, but before it seems counterproductive.

Surely we ALL want the team to win, and for everyone to do their utmost to achieve that objective? If someone gave me grief before I did a job then it wouldn't make me work harder, or necessarily better.

It IS counterproductive, but Micky should be professional and suck it up, accept that fans do have about 100,000 reasons to be ticked off at the moment. The fact he calls them idiots makes me worry that he really is in denial.
 


i was more annoyed that there were fans who sat quite for the entire game and then as soon as the half time whistle went they booed. for god sake support the team all the way through and if you are ever going to boo do it after the game as you need to lift the team at half time rather than make them unconfident.
 


Spiros

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
2,376
Too far from the sun
I think Adams has a point. There were some right twats about on Tuesday night - a lot of whom weren't there at any/many games this season. A bloke sat almost directly in front of me shouted abuse at Adams as he was on his way to the dugout before the game - how's this meant to encourage your team for a cup game? There were several others who saw fit to yell abuse at any of our subs as they warmed up, even in the first half. Very little applause or acknowledgement of the few decent things we did do - they just went along with the predetermined intent of slagging the team off. What's the point of that? OK, make your views known during or after a shit performance, but before we've kicked off? Sorry, but it would be better for all of us if these wankers kept the tenner in their pocket and stayed at home.
 




Knotty

Well-known member
Feb 5, 2004
2,421
Canterbury
It depends on how you take the meaning of the word 'right'.

Is it a fair assessment of some fans? - Yes

Is it advisable for a manager to publicly say so? - No.
 




Elder for England

New member
Jan 30, 2008
2,388
İbrahim Tatlıses;2766593 said:
Yes. Brighton fans are idiots - reading the drivel that is written on this board daily, isn't it obvious?

My point exactly.
 




bright1064

New member
Dec 21, 2007
4,513
Brighton
Maybe these supporters felt it was the best time to tell Adams what they think of him, and his management of the team this season. To do it before the match would have more of an impact than after, when he jogs off to the dressing room.

We are all entitled to our opinions, Micky Adams included. But to call fans of the football club 'Idiots' is a daft thing to do. If he wants more people to get on his back, then he is going the right way about it with comments like that. It just puts him and his team under even more pressure to get results.

Stop blaming it on fans Micky, start blaming yourself and your players and then maybe when you start performing as you should you'll hear a bit of hush from the so called 'idiots'.
 








CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,097
Maybe these supporters felt it was the best time to tell Adams what they think of him, and his management of the team this season. To do it before the match would have more of an impact than after, when he jogs off to the dressing room.

We are all entitled to our opinions, Micky Adams included. But to call fans of the football club 'Idiots' is a daft thing to do. If he wants more people to get on his back, then he is going the right way about it with comments like that. It just puts him and his team under even more pressure to get results.

Stop blaming it on fans Micky, start blaming yourself and your players and then maybe when you start performing as you should you'll hear a bit of hush from the so called 'idiots'.

Truth.
 


bright1064

New member
Dec 21, 2007
4,513
Brighton
Because it is the professional thing to do. Just take the stupid criticism on the chin and get on with trying to score past Luton Town.

For him to say that in public, Micky is also being an idiot to coin a phrase.

Correct.

If someone sends me a text on my radio show and tells me i'm rubbish at my job (which has been done before...). I would never EVER then open the mic and call them an idiot. Never in a million years!!

Why?

Because it's not professional, especially not in the public eye. Even more so when the supporters pay his wages...Sorry to use the age old thing, but it's true!
 


Elder for England

New member
Jan 30, 2008
2,388
Maybe these supporters felt it was the best time to tell Adams what they think of him, and his management of the team this season. To do it before the match would have more of an impact than after, when he jogs off to the dressing room.

We are all entitled to our opinions, Micky Adams included. But to call fans of the football club 'Idiots' is a daft thing to do. If he wants more people to get on his back, then he is going the right way about it with comments like that. It just puts him and his team under even more pressure to get results.

Stop blaming it on fans Micky, start blaming yourself and your players and then maybe when you start performing as you should you'll hear a bit of hush from the so called 'idiots'.

Because it is the professional thing to do. Just take the stupid criticism on the chin and get on with trying to score past Luton Town.

For him to say that in public, Micky is also being an idiot to coin a phrase.

But why if ridiculous abuse is being hurled at him, then I don't see why he cannot respond. It's similar to the Richards incident, the whole team were playing crap and fans chose to shout abuse at Richards, and out of frustration he spoke back to defend himself, again I see nothing wrong with this.

If people on here don't liken the Albion to a normal job environment, these people the 'fans' are hurling abuse at are people too and there becomes a time when a line is crossed and indeed it was and I think this justifies Adams statement. What makes the fans so special that nothing can be said back to them? And using the 'we pay the wages' argument is crap, paying for something doesn't give people the right to talk to people however they want.
 




Trigger

Well-known member
Jul 4, 2003
40,457
Brighton
But why if ridiculous abuse is being hurled at him then I don't see why he cannot respond.
By responding he is opening himself up to much more abuse, he's made things harder for himself now as he's proved he is an easy target that can't handle it and will bite back, it would have been much better for himself if he'd been professional and kept schtum.
 


Spiros

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
2,376
Too far from the sun
Maybe these supporters felt it was the best time to tell Adams what they think of him, and his management of the team this season. To do it before the match would have more of an impact than after, when he jogs off to the dressing room.

We are all entitled to our opinions, Micky Adams included. But to call fans of the football club 'Idiots' is a daft thing to do. If he wants more people to get on his back, then he is going the right way about it with comments like that. It just puts him and his team under even more pressure to get results.

Stop blaming it on fans Micky, start blaming yourself and your players and then maybe when you start performing as you should you'll hear a bit of hush from the so called 'idiots'.
So you're saying it's OK for someone to yell 'f*** off Adams you useless c**t' before the game and wrong for Adams to brand that kind of abuse as being from idiots????
 


bright1064

New member
Dec 21, 2007
4,513
Brighton
So you're saying it's OK for someone to yell 'f*** off Adams you useless c**t' before the game and wrong for Adams to brand that kind of abuse as being from idiots????

Yes, yes I am.

Because, although I would probably feel like doing the same thing in his shoes, it's just not professional.

But the biggest reason why it was so stupid, is because he has now just HEAPED pressure onto himself and his players. Do you really think that's what we need at the moment?
 






Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,953
Surrey
Is that what most people on here are doing anyway?
There really isn't much wrong with that. This is a fans forum, and an outlet for opinions. Gobbing off to him at the ground is very very different though, and really I think people should realise this.

As has been said, he is unprofessional to have called such people "idiots" in the Argus. He's right of course, but it does nothing but more harm to himself and the players.
 


Elder for England

New member
Jan 30, 2008
2,388
By responding he is opening himself up to much more abuse, he's made things harder for himself now as he's proved he is an easy target that can't handle it and will bite back, it would have been much better for himself if he'd been professional and kept schtum.

He hasn't made things harder for himself nor proved he's an easy target, as people would be on his back whatever he does, he's just proved that he won't take that kind of abuse from fans, and so he shouldn't. So if he'd remained professional, fans wouldn't of praised him for it, nor would they have thought any better of him, therefore call these people for what they are. 'Paying his wages' or not, doesn't give anybody the right to talk to people the way some Albion fans have done.

As well as being professional, it comes down to the type of personality. Many people are praising John Baine for his speech on the radio and the point I mostly picked up on from that was wanting the old Mikey back, well that works both ways.
 


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