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Is it time for Dick Knight to go ?

Should Dick Knight resign as chairman ?


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Jan 30, 2008
31,981
knight won't go untill falmers built,and even then he will want to have his arse in his prime seat and to show all the visiting directors around and for them to massage his ego
 










Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
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Dick Knight was at the Gully Party tonight chatting very happily with lots of youngsters. More respect to him. No Adams there though I am afriad, unless he was at one of the earlier parties?
 


Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Utter nonsense, yet again. How can you say that list wasn't a dig at Knight, when you produced a list solely referring to the rumours about him?

Yes, they were reasonable requirements - in the same way that "I want a Chairman who won't fire a manager because he doesn't like the colour trousers he wears" would be a perfectly good requirement. But you didn't post that or anything else as "perfectly reasonable" as your list, you simply hand-picked the reasons that there has been a rumour connecting it to Dick Knight.

Y'know how when wayne's word came out there were poll of the greatest songs ever, and bohemian rhapsody won it, and then wonderwall win it when oasis were enjoying a renaissance, etc. how polls like these tend to reflect what is currently big? I think it's a case of that.

Those are the issues that are bandied around regarding DK at the moment, I know all the rumours about DW's firing aren't true, they can't all be true. But having those rumours out there make me think "that's not what I want a chairman to do".

It genuinely isn't about having a dig at Dick Knight. I voted no in the poll. I don't think he should resign yet. Even if all he did was save the club he deserves to see Falmer come to fruition.

I imagine if I was asked back in the Archer/Belotti days I'd've added "doesn't change the club policies to benefit from selling our home". In fact, you can add that to the list, because that's something else I don't want from a chairman. If I was asked back during the hinshelwood days I'd likely say I want a chairman who acts before our losing streak record is broken.

Because those issues are currently around and what I'm hearing at the moment, those issues are what spring to mind when asked what I want from a chairman.
 




Knotty

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Feb 5, 2004
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It would also help if he could shed a little more light on the murky manoeuvres that saw Wilkins sacked but then offered the post of coach straight after.

A lot of fans I know lost a lot of respect for Dick over the Wilkins affair and the haste with which Adams was reappointed, and I don't think Dick has managed to justify his actions.

You make some good points but the problem for Dick, and for us, is that he doesn't have to justify any of his actions to us, particularly when they involve employment matters. In most companies, employment matters are strictly confidential and rightly so.

The problem for Dick is that we want to know because, as customers of a football club, we think we have a right to know - much more than we would as customers of any other type of business. Are you bothered if the sacking of your local supermarket manager is jusified or not?

Were they 'murky manoeuvres' as you say? Just because we have not been privy to them doesn't make them murky.

You are right that it would help if Dick shed more light on what went on, and I want to know as much as anyone. Unlike some, however, I don't think I have a right to know. Furthermore, we don't know what Dean's feelings are on the matter. Maybe he wouldn't want us to know either!

Unfortunately, as is the nature of boards like this, hearsay and unsubstantiated rumour have been turned into fact by the DK-outers to back their prejudiced agenda.
 










Scoffers

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Jan 13, 2004
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DK is not going anywhere. He is Brighton through and through and although he has made mistakes (I still can't quite believe that he sent Wilkins packing) I feel convinced that every decision he has made has been for the long term future of the club, and I trust him.

In any case he deserves to stay and see Falmer through to conclusion at the very least IMHO.
 


D

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Ah, so you do have exclusive access to the financial plan, and you're saying that 22,000 is our break-even figure.

Wouldn't you call it slightly out of order to not let Derek Chapman and the Falmer team know that the figures they have been working on for seven years are f***ed and should be binned? Don't you think you owe that to the club at the very least?



So because one club did it, there is 'no reason' not to do it here? There could have been several reasons for it not to have worked here - none of which were purely the fact the someone else did it. There were several why it could have worked, but to do it on that basis alone is pretty thoughtless.



Is that your sole benchmark for loyalty? What has longevity got to do with loyalty when - according to some on here - you end up working against the club's interests?


Where did i say 22000 would be break even?
What i am suggesting that if we want to compete in the championship mid table and above the wages will be much higher therefore we will need bigger gates than the 12500 that has been banded about as break even.

Unless it is going to be £50 quid ahead!

Let's not kid ourselves to stay out of massive debt at Falmer we need a good team in the Championship or a big money investor or both.
 




El Presidente

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Jul 5, 2003
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Just shows what a tin pot fickle fan base we have. Southampton have no money, are bottom of the Championship but still had 26,000 on Saturday.
 


D

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1. How come we are £15million in the red if making big money through the youth system is what has caused DK to survive thus far?

2. Certainly not the fans, who did nothing but whine in Wilkins first season for a 'big name' manager when we finished 18th and had 5 wins at Withdean all season.

1.How much more would we be in debt without selling?

2.I never wanted a big name manager as realised we could not afford a decent one so was very pleased to see Dick and crew had there business heads on when appointing Wilkins but it appears when it came to it Wilkins was used to as a stop gap.
What you forget is to add Wilkins had to pick up the mess what McGhee left and then had the balls to chop out the dead wood and start with the youth.
How many managers would do that nowadays?
 


D

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Just shows what a tin pot fickle fan base we have. Southampton have no money, are bottom of the Championship but still had 26,000 on Saturday.

Against Forrest.

Have you checked out there other attendances or just the one to suit you?
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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Where did i say 22000 would be break even?

You said '...without the huge investment gate receipts will have to be at a regular sell out surely for any chance of survival.

'Survival' you say. Implying that anything less than a regular sell-out means our non-survival.

What i am suggesting that if we want to compete in the championship mid table and above the wages will be much higher therefore we will need bigger gates than the 12500 that has been banded about as break even.

Unless it is going to be £50 quid ahead!

Let's not kid ourselves to stay out of massive debt at Falmer we need a good team in the Championship or a big money investor or both.

Again, do you have access to the financial plans, and there's something we need to know, because your summation appears to directly contradict the work Derek Chapman and Co have put together.

My question is, you seem convinced that the Albion cannot function in future without a MASSIVE cash injection (though you don't say how THAT debt would be serviced), so how do you KNOW that 12,500 will not be a break-even figure? What are your calculations on that?
 




portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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Timely reminder to all that "tis the season for goodwill to all men...."
 




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