[Technology] If you could afford it would your next car be an EV?

[Triggaaar]

If I HAD to buy one…

That’s a fake engine noise isn’t it?

Yes.

 

[Flounce]

Yes.

A bit final spin on a washing machine on the way out noise as it hard accelerates though

 

[Flounce]

Poll on Yes/No, already got one neck and neck at 103 currently

 

[Triggaaar]

A bit final spin on a washing machine on the way out noise as it hard accelerates though

Electric cars with fake noises because everyone hates engine noise

 

[Flounce]

Electric cars with fake noises because everyone hates engine noise

Except the hard of hearing

 

[chickens]

Except the hard of hearing

The hard of hearing who don’t look before crossing the road will be dead via pedal bikes, e-bikes, e-scooters and electric motorcycles long before an electric car gets to them. And yes, they’ve put in fake noises for those who need their cars to make vroom vroom sounds to feel suitably masculine. The fragile little dears.

Edit: although not too noisy: https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/legal/2024-10/new-noise-cameras-in-successful-first-trial/

 

[thedonkeycentrehalf]

Honestly I’m fine, I’m just not getting this idea that people love listening to car exhausts.

I’ve never noticed the enthusiasts gathered round Kwik Fit, swapping tapes, etc.

Although I’ve heard a rumour that if you drive a Mk II Cortina round a Sainsbury’s car park at exactly 20mph for 2 hours, then start playing the recording back as the lion roars at the start of the film, the exhaust note fits perfectly to “The Wizard of Oz”

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[chickens]

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And now I know what to get @Triggaaar and @Flounce for Christmas!

 

[peterward]

Simple question, assuming you could fund it easily and that it would be your only car

How much behind going EV and allegedly saving the planet is NSC?

interestingly or not! My company has just launched an EV lease scheme through a company called Tusker, weighing up pros and cons, its basically a new car that includes absolutely everything, Car, EV charger, all insurance, tax, servicing, tyres, breakdown. Only cost is monthly fee and electricity.

Its also a salaray sacrifice scheme, so cost is taken from gross pay before taxes, they show you the approximate Net cost to you, can get a Tesla Model 3 for just under £500 pm based on 10k miles, other more modest cars like Peugeot, Vauxhall, Kia EV SUV type cars, lower/base models from around £350pm.

I dont need a car really, got a diesel, though it may benefit the other half more who only drives local to us in East Midlands. I'm up and down motorway to London/Sussex pretty regularly and still not sure I fancy having to charge car and wait, for a round trip.

#Deliberating

 

[Flounce]

interestingly or not! My company has just launched an EV lease scheme through a company called Tusker, weighing up pros and cons, its basically a new car that includes absolutely everything, Car, EV charger, all insurance, tax, servicing, tyres, breakdown. Only cost is monthly fee and electricity.

Its also a salaray sacrifice scheme, so cost is taken from gross pay before taxes, they show you the approximate Net cost to you, can get a Tesla Model 3 for just under £500 pm based on 10k miles, other more modest cars like Peugeot, Vauxhall, Kia EV SUV type cars, lower/base models from around £350pm.

I dont need a car really, got a diesel, though it may benefit the other half more who only drives local to us in East Midlands. I'm up and down motorway to London/Sussex pretty regularly and still not sure I fancy having to charge car and wait, for a round trip.

#Deliberating

You don’t need a car but you are contemplating spending £350 to £500 a month for a number of years to end up owning nothing? Sorry I can’t get my head around that

 

[Greg Bobkin]

How often I drive more than 200 miles is entirely irrelevant. With a petrol or diesel vehicle I can if I need to. And incidentally just speaking yesterday to someone who has just bought a Tesla. Problems, problems, problems.

That's a Tesla issue, not necessarily an EV issue...

Oh - and you can drive 200 miles in most EVs these days, too. If you need to, of course.

 

[peterward]

You don’t need a car but you are contemplating spending £350 to £500 a month for a number of years to end up owning nothing? Sorry I can’t get my head around that

We have 2 cars in family.

Im not contemplating selling mine, and wether you own your depreciating car or dont it still costs £X per month to run it, my wifes is older (2009) and right now paying monthly for insurance, tax, petrol, servicing, tyres, breakdown ins etc for her car, all of which would be included in the EV scheme and costs we'd lose, their are dual benefits for some, first benefit that would apply for all is obvious..... paying £350 pm is the only cost you'd have except electrictity to charge car, you'd always have a brand new to 3 year old car, and you'd be liable for absolutely no extra costs as everything included, one payment, nothing else ever to pay, which gives peace of mind. 2nd which would only be relevant for for some, is it can bring total annual earnings down as a pre tax benefit, which may or may not have tax band band/personal allowance/child allowance benefits.

But still undecided right now.

 

[Commander]

How often I drive more than 200 miles is entirely irrelevant. With a petrol or diesel vehicle I can if I need to. And incidentally just speaking yesterday to someone who has just bought a Tesla. Problems, problems, problems.

So basically the last sentence in my post was 100% correct then.

 

[Commander]

What an arrogant prat you are, leaving out all the other parts of the argument to suit your viewpoint. As you so rightly say people just hear what they want to hear.

It was a little joke as you stated a problem that had literally just been shown to be incorrect a couple of posts earlier.

I like 'arrogant prat' though, I'm keeping that.

 

[Marshy]

NO NEVER WILL I BUY ONE

 

[Flounce]

We have 2 cars in family.

Im not contemplating selling mine, and wether you own your depreciating car or dont it still costs £X per month to run it, my wifes is older (2009) and right now paying monthly for insurance, tax, petrol, servicing, tyres, breakdown ins etc for her car, all of which would be included in the EV scheme and costs we'd lose, their are dual benefits for some, first benefit that would apply for all is obvious..... paying £350 pm is the only cost you'd have except electrictity to charge car, you'd always have a brand new to 3 year old car, and you'd be liable for absolutely no extra costs as everything included, one payment, nothing else ever to pay, which gives peace of mind. 2nd which would only be relevant for for some, is it can bring total annual earnings down as a pre tax benefit, which may or may not have tax band band/personal allowance/child allowance benefits.

But still undecided right now.

Insurance is included in PCP and Lease deals? I didn’t know that

It obviously works for some as so many lease or PCP cars but the thought of owning nothing when you stop paying, or having to pay a big deposit and final payment still stops me from even considering it. If I can’t afford something I buy what I can afford today

I guess I get leasing an EV because you can give it back if the battery goes and is not covered, the cost of battery replacement seems higher than buying a half decent ICE car so an outright purchase sounds scary once the warranty expires.

Old man syndrome

 

[Triggaaar]

And yes, they’ve put in fake noises for those who need their cars to make vroom vroom sounds to feel suitably masculine. The fragile little dears.

I agree with you. Bloody EV drivers.

 

[thedonkeycentrehalf]

Insurance is included in PCP and Lease deals? I didn’t know that

In company leases it is the norm but not private ones. For PCPs, sometimes as an additional bonus offer / incentive but not usually

 

[schmunk]

Now have a 7 seater ev and all in after salary sacrifice it's 500 a month.

Which one? I'm possibly in the market but a Kia EV9 is just a bit too much, and the VW iD Buzz isn't available yet.

 

[John Byrnes Mullet]

Pistons and gurgling V12's for me. Will never pay money for a car that sounds like a Dyson hoover.