The Clamp
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[Politics] If there were a General Election tomorrow poll
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I will do that on May 2nd on the form for Police Commissioner. It's an unnecessary position and a waste of public money. I asked a local Lib Dem councillor about it, and apparently the LDs are against Police Commissioners too, so that's another point to consider.
I shall write right across the ballot paper. I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS POSITION.
Spoilt papers are observed by every candidate so your views do get seen. As you say, don't waste your vote as it is a privilege we have in this country.
Lecture over, folks.
If you live in a predominantly white middle class area, and have nothing important to achieve any more, your main concerns will be knife crime, immigration, dole scum and the EU and, let's face it, in white middle class areas the Tories have absolutely nailed it in all four of these areas. In fact, the more I think about it, Faversham is really nice and mostly white, and someone was thrown out of the local comp for carrying a pen-knife 15 years ago, and nothing much has changed since Brexit.....I have made up my mind - let's have another five years of full steam ahead with Sunak!
- Oct 12, 2022
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If you live in a predominantly white middle class area, and have nothing important to achieve any more, your main concerns will be knife crime, immigration, dole scum and the EU and, let's face it, in white middle class areas the Tories have absolutely nailed it in all four of these areas. In fact, the more I think about it, Faversham is really nice and mostly white, and someone was thrown out of the local comp for carrying a pen-knife 15 years ago, and nothing much has changed since Brexit.....I have made up my mind - let's have another five years of full steam ahead with Sunak!
I know you’re joking, but:
Knife crime has risen.
Immigration has risen.
Universal Credit is being paid to about 7 million people, almost half of them workers.
We’re largely locked out of our closest and largest market by freshly added bureaucracy, a direct result of the type of Brexit chosen and championed by the Conservative Party.
I may want to see your definition of nailed it in this context.
The Clamp
Well-known member
Ready for Rishi?
Ding Dong !
Boy I'm HOT today !
Anyone thinking that Labour are going to be the solution to the current issues facing our country are totally & utterly DELUDED...........Get help !!!
More or less deluded than those thinking that the solution to the current issues facing our country is re-electing the party that has proven itself incapable of sorting it out?
(Some would argue contributing to those issues. Others would argue causing those issues)
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The NHS is being deliberately run into the ground, and I would like to keep it. If that is delusion then I am deluded.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Nail. On. Head.
- Nov 11, 2009
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They don't need any.
There was always the adage that Labour voters, (being so tribal), would vote for a pig with a red rosette.
Well this year I think most of the UK would vote
if that was the main challenger!Labour are the "Tories out" vote. oink oink
You won’t want to hear it HWT, but Labour under Corbyn defeated the Tory Government 41 times in HOC votes.
This makes him the most effective LOTO in our history.
That seems pretty strong to me.
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
Tactically Lib dem for me as Eastbourne is a two horse race. It helps that the LD candidate is a decent bloke and local.
Official Old Man
Uckfield Seagull
Never knew this. I guess it is to prove the paper is spoilt. Do they look at them or just nod yes to agree a number?I will do that on May 2nd on the form for Police Commissioner. It's an unnecessary position and a waste of public money. I asked a local Lib Dem councillor about it, and apparently the LDs are against Police Commissioners too, so that's another point to consider.
I shall write right across the ballot paper. I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS POSITION.
Spoilt papers are observed by every candidate so your views do get seen. As you say, don't waste your vote as it is a privilege we have in this country.
Lecture over, folks.
pb21
Well-known member
- Apr 23, 2010
- 6,717
What are the current issues facing our country, as you see them, and how do you think they would be best solved?
Hotchilidog
Well-known member
- Jan 24, 2009
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Green for me, not just because I have the opportunity to actually get an MP I want, but also because they seem to be the only party taking the challenges this country and indeed the world faces seriously, in a way that the mainstream parties do not.
Even if I was not a Pavilion resident I could not lend Labour my vote, they are a party of Capital now and not Labour. I am hoping that a lot of my Labour voting friends optimism that we'll see a different Labour in government than I have seen over the last five years will be justified. I suspect they will be disappointed.
That said I am looking forward to seeing the Tories run out of town as they have done nothing but damage to this country since 2010. Given that they are the lamest of lame ducks it seems insulting to the nation that will hang around until the autumn before they finally pack their bags and go. The country has been telling them to F**k Off for years now but as usual they are still not listening.
Even if I was not a Pavilion resident I could not lend Labour my vote, they are a party of Capital now and not Labour. I am hoping that a lot of my Labour voting friends optimism that we'll see a different Labour in government than I have seen over the last five years will be justified. I suspect they will be disappointed.
That said I am looking forward to seeing the Tories run out of town as they have done nothing but damage to this country since 2010. Given that they are the lamest of lame ducks it seems insulting to the nation that will hang around until the autumn before they finally pack their bags and go. The country has been telling them to F**k Off for years now but as usual they are still not listening.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Yes, we found this out at the 2008 local elections when we had a Seagulls Party candidate standing. Three of us allowed in the count.
The standard ballot paper is one box marked with an X.
Some people put ticks. others an x in every box, others draw a penis, etc etc
Every spoilt paper is examined by the candidates with an electoral officer to see if it can be allocated to a candidate, and the other candidates have to agree the decision. It's quite amusing.
JOLovegrove
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- Jan 30, 2012
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I am shocked that anyone would vote Tory again. Do people genuinely want another 5 years with this government?
I'm not deluded but will vote Labour. Unfortunately the voting system we have in place only really allows us to look at the current government and wonder whether your only other choice would be better or worse.
Well the Tories have wrecked so many parts of the country - Brexit is disastrous and horribly insular, crime has gone up, waiting lists have increased, homelessness and food bank usage have rocketed and the NHS is being underfunded as usual. The crowning turd in the u-bend is that the tax burden in the UK is the highest on record - from a party that tells everyone that this is what Labour do. And remember when Truss wanted to cut tax? She did it in such an unfair, economically retarded way that it caused interest rates (and mortgages) to rocket - for years ever since. To be clear, cutting income tax for the rich is the most ineffective way of creating growth, and the least fair way of cutting tax and always has been, yet that's what they chose to do.
So I'm struggling to imagine a world where a Labour government won't improve things for most people. Perhaps rather than just repeating this tedious "never Labour" mantra, you could explain how in your view things are likely to be any worse?
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Such is the state of the country, and the amount of asset stripping going on, I think it will be very last minute (even January?) or I wouldn't put it past Sunak to declare a State of Emergency to continue.
My main hope is that his wife wants to get back to California, so he will quit. If he does that in the summer and we get another madcap leader, then who knows. Please, not Admiral of the Fleet Mordaunt, as she is as mental as the rest.
More than happy to hear it.
I don't remember it, though. Does anyone?
I think all this proves is my point - it doesn't matter how 'successful' or 'unsuccessful' a leader of the opposition may be when they are the leader of the opposition - the only game in town is the general election and persuading the electorate to allow you to form a government. The very idea of Corbyn forming a government is the stuff of fantasy.
I rejoined Labour after Corbyn resigned, and disappeared over the horizon, condemning all forms of discrimination (except antisemitism). The most successful leader of the opposition of all time. On a par with being the best football club from Devon in the whole world.
