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I hear Lucas was acting like Communist again yesterday on her soap box at Hove...



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brightonlass2009

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hove born&bred said:
Yep. She is the one of most self serving individuals you could wish to meet. She has no interest in the Brighton constituency she claims to represent. And will gladly 'piggy back' on the achievements of other organisations and individuals and generally give them a belated endoresement.
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Can you name any occasions where she has 'piggy backed' on the achievements of other organisations and individuals?
 




The Large One

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brightonlass2009 said:
This doesn't actually mean she works for the constituency. A lot of the ideas she has spoken about within Westminster don't actually directly effect us. The talk about how the voting in Westminster should be changed to accommodate the style of the European Parliament, how does this effect us in Brighton? It technically doesn't. A lot of what I hear from her is a national/world issue rather than a local one. Although I do admit I have heard her speak about local issues I have found these very few and far between.
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As a party leader (and sole representative in Westminster), she has to combine her role of constituent MP and that of wider political issues. Do you suppose Ed Milliband's or Peter Robinson's constituents have 100% of their parliamentary time devoted to them? In fact, no MP does that. However, that doesn't follow she neglects her constituents. Have a look on her website, Hansard and They Work For You.

brightonlass2009 said:
Ok so she does live here, but as I recall this only arose because people were complaining at the fact she was still living in Oxford and commuting to Brighton. Admittedly she didn't want to uproot her son at that stage, however the woman could have left her family there and at least renting in the constituency a long time before she actually did.
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Well, she could. Nancy Platts (Labour candidate in Brighton Pavilion) did, but having a residence in Brighton, Oxford and Brussels is a bit excessive, I'd suggest. But the sounds of things - if it was down to you, you'd have her family split up...?



brightonlass2009 said:
I have major issues with Caroline Lucas admittedly, but it mainly stems from the issues I have with the majority of MPs within the country. I personally believe an MP should be from the constituency/town they are running for, or at least have lived in that place for a significantly long time. How do you have an understanding of the local issues if you are from say Brighton and you are going for a constituency seat in Hull? You don't really. Caroline Lucas should have gone for a seat closer to where she was raise (Malvern I think it was), not for Brighton Pavilion which she knew they would win because of the large student numbers and the idea that we are a radical city who believe that change is the only way forward.
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So you don't so much have a political axe to grind, more a native axe?

As you say, your point about Caroline Lucas being Brighton Pavilion MP (as opposed to somewhere near Malvern) is one thing, though you wish to land of all that particular issue (an MP ought to be a native) on her doorstep. I assume you'll attach exactly the same scorn to Mike Weatherly (Somerset), or Tim Loughton (17 years out of Sussex before being elected) or any of the parliamentary candidates at the last general election in Brighton Pavilion?

Or David Cameron for that matter?
 
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The Large One

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hove born&bred said:
Funny, you never respond to my other posts.

I thought you'd gone off me!

And at least I form my own political opinions. I haven't been brainwashed.
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I didn't respond because there was nothing to respond to. You think she lives in Marlborough Street - and I know you only keep saying that for a wind-up; I know she doesn't.

As for political opinions, I take no lecture from NSC's biggest illiterate bigot.
 


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Dandyman

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hove born&bred said:
Lukewarm excepted, of the people who support Caroline Lucas and the neglect she personifies towards the constituency she claims to represent, actually live in the Brighton Pavilion ward?
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16,238 of them at the last election.

Keep going Timmy, you should be able to get the Tory vote to under 10,000 with a bit of effort.
 








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The Large One said:
I didn't respond because there was nothing to respond to. You think she lives in Marlborough Street - and I know you only keep saying that for a wind-up; I know she doesn't.

As for political opinions, I take no lecture from NSC's biggest illiterate bigot.
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Lukewarm luv, I have been to her residence in Marlborough Street. I even had tea.

Why does it matter where she lives anyway. After all, you bought it up.
 








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brightonlass2009

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The Large One said:
As a party leader (and sole representative), she has to combine her role of constituent MP and that of wider political issues. Do you suppose Ed Milliband's or Peter Robinson's constituents have 100% of their parliamentary time devoted to them? In fact, no MP does that. However, that doesn't follow she neglects her constituents. Have a look on her website, Hansard and They Work For You.

Well, she could. Nancy Platts (Labour candidate in Brighton Pavilion did), but having a residence in Brighton, Oxford and Brussels is a bit excessive, I'd suggest. But the sounds of things - if it was down to you, you'd have her family split up...?


So you don't so much have a political axe to grind, more a native axe?

As you say, your point about Caroline Lucas being Brighton Pavilion MP (as opposed to somewhere near Malvern) is one thing, though you wish to land of all that particular issue on here doorstep. I assume you'll attach exactly the same scorn to Mike Weatherly (Somerset), or Tim Loughton (17 years out of Sussex before being elected) or any of the parliamentary candidates at the last general election in Brighton Pavilion?

Or David Cameron for that matter?
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I didn't say to split her family up did I? But having at least one residence within Brighton, and not living in Oxford would have been sufficient enough. Once she was elected into Brighton Pavilion the residence within Brussels would not have been necessary because she had to resign her post as MEP to take up that of an MP.

It's both a political and a native. I don't agree with the Green party in any sense which was further established when I read the Green party manifesto for my studies and ended up arguing with pretty much everything and writing about how a lot of their ideas are very idealistic and although could potentially work in theory in reality it was impossible to implement them. Also as I have said I do not believe a person really knows the issues of the local constituency if they have no lived there for a significant amount of time.

And yes it is an issue I have with ALL MPs, as I stated in my previous post! However if you wish to actually believe or make it seem like I only have this problem against Caroline Lucas then go ahead! Out of the 3 MPs within the Brighton and Hove area the only person who is really able to understand Brighton based issues is Simon Kirby, as he has been based here the longest.
 








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Dandyman

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brightonlass2009 said:
I'm a critic of her and it seems that even I'm defender her against HB&B! Mainly because I can't think of a time where she has claimed another organisations achievement as her own!
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Indeed - Timmy's candidate is from Kingston Upon Thames btw.
 


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brightonlass2009 said:
I didn't say to split her family up did I? But having at least one residence within Brighton, and not living in Oxford would have been sufficient enough. Once she was elected into Brighton Pavilion the residence within Brussels would not have been necessary because she had to resign her post as MEP to take up that of an MP.

It's both a political and a native. I don't agree with the Green party in any sense which was further established when I read the Green party manifesto for my studies and ended up arguing with pretty much everything and writing about how a lot of their ideas are very idealistic and although could potentially work in theory in reality it was impossible to implement them. Also as I have said I do not believe a person really knows the issues of the local constituency if they have no lived there for a significant amount of time.

And yes it is an issue I have with ALL MPs, as I stated in my previous post! However if you wish to actually believe or make it seem like I only have this problem against Caroline Lucas then go ahead! Out of the 3 MPs within the Brighton and Hove area the only person who is really able to understand Brighton based issues is Simon Kirby, as he has been based here the longest.
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You might have to wait. He might not get an answer straight away.
 










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brightonlass2009

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hove born&bred said:
Oh me. Er......decriminalising drugs for starters. Or wanting to.
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I was going to say that hasn't actually occurred yet. Also if such a policy was to be implemented it would have to be nationwide, therefore it would not 'ruin' the lives of people within Brighton as you say, but rather the nation as a whole. Need a better argument then that. Please keep going.
 








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