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I hear Lucas was acting like Communist again yesterday on her soap box at Hove...







The Large One

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It's both a political and a native. I don't agree with the Green party in any sense which was further established when I read the Green party manifesto for my studies and ended up arguing with pretty much everything and writing about how a lot of their ideas are very idealistic and although could potentially work in theory in reality it was impossible to implement them. Also as I have said I do not believe a person really knows the issues of the local constituency if they have no lived there for a significant amount of time.

Apart from that second sentence being long and rambling, it appears to stray into different territories. To re-cap, you're against Green Party politics, though the only reason you give is that it's because they're not implementable. Other than that, you don't say why... though admittedly that's not the central issue being discussed in this instance.

I'm not making any point here, apart from expressing a little confusion in your post.


And yes it is an issue I have with ALL MPs, as I stated in my previous post! However if you wish to actually believe or make it seem like I only have this problem against Caroline Lucas then go ahead! Out of the 3 MPs within the Brighton and Hove area the only person who is really able to understand Brighton based issues is Simon Kirby, as he has been based here the longest.

Well, you do have a problem with Caroline Lucas (see above), though her place of origin merely seems to be the icing on the cake. I agree it could be better for a native to represent their constituency, but that pre-supposes that a native is the best on offer. In Brighton Pavilion's case at the last General Election, a native wasn't on offer anyway.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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brightonlass2009

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Apart from that second sentence being long and rambling, it appears to stray into different territories. To re-cap, you're against Green Party politics, though the only reason you give is that it's because they're not implementable. Other than that, you don't say why... not that that is the central issue you're making in this instance.

Well, you do have a problem with Caroline Lucas (see above), though her place of origin merely seems to be the icing on the cake. I agree it could be better for a native to represent their constituency, but that pre-supposes that a native is the best on offer. In Brighton Pavilion's case at the last General Election, a native wasn't on offer anyway.

It's a problem with the Green party and NOT Caroline Lucas. Caroline Lucas does not embody the entirety of the Green party, even if she is the leader. It is essentially like saying because I do have a problem with Ed Miliband I have an issue with all of the Labour party. This is not the case, I agree with the majority of the Labour party principles, however I believe Ed Miliband is the wrong person to be leading the party to such principles. The leader is not the all and end of the party, no matter how the media try and perceive that to be the case.

Therefore my issue with Caroline Lucas is SOLELY that she is NOT from Brighton. And this is an issue I would have had with any person that was voted into the constituency of Brighton Pavilion.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Current policies are a HUGE success, aren't they?

Quite. The war on drugs must rank as the longest and most costly government policy which has never shown a single measure of success and yet we still pump millions into it every year.
 








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Apart from that second sentence being long and rambling, it appears to stray into different territories. To re-cap, you're against Green Party politics, though the only reason you give is that it's because they're not implementable. Other than that, you don't say why... though admittedly that's not the central issue being discussed in this instance.

I'm not making any point here, apart from expressing a little confusion in your post.




Well, you do have a problem with Caroline Lucas (see above), though her place of origin merely seems to be the icing on the cake. I agree it could be better for a native to represent their constituency, but that pre-supposes that a native is the best on offer. In Brighton Pavilion's case at the last General Election, a native wasn't on offer anyway.

Wait 'til next time.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Therefore my issue with Caroline Lucas is SOLELY that she is NOT from Brighton. And this is an issue I would have had with any person that was voted into the constituency of Brighton Pavilion.

Given significant chunks of Brighton and Hove are not "from" Brighton we'd be left with a very small selection pool if all candidates had to be local. Is this a good idea?
 






brightonlass2009

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Given significant chunks of Brighton and Hove are not "from" Brighton we'd be left with a very small selection pool if all candidates had to be local. Is this a good idea?

I'm not necessarily saying Born and Bred as I know that would be highly difficult to manage considering a large number of people move to the city after University etc. etc. Rather having lived in the constituency/town for at least a certain amount of time before running to be an MP or councilor.
 


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HB&B I am very intrigued to hear your response to my comment on how drugs legalisation would effect the country as a whole and not just Brighton?

It would create an upturn in mental health problems. Thus further draining NHS resources. Simple as that,
 


brightonlass2009

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It would create an upturn in mental health problems. Thus further draining NHS resources. Simple as that,

However that isn't really answering the question as to why you think this is just ruining Brighton? And you haven't yet managed to find another policy area or idea that would be ruining the city? Also not all people who take drugs end up with mental health issues, and if they get the help that they need at an earlier stage this would then result in the prevention of mental health problems for some in later life.
 




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However that isn't really answering the question as to why you think this is just ruining Brighton? And you haven't yet managed to find another policy area or idea that would be ruining the city? Also not all people who take drugs end up with mental health issues, and if they get the help that they need at an earlier stage this would then result in the prevention of mental health problems for some in later life.

Massive drug problem in Brighton. Draining on time and resources at RSCH.
 


Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
..Town Hall.

Banging on about health service reforms


Do we really want our MP to be conducting her self in such a way? I thought that was what an MP is supposed to do.

Surely being (somehow) elected to the House Of Commons would suggest she would make these kind of protestations there. No - I thought that holding public meetings with constituents and other interested parties was what an MP is supposed to do.


Her cronies then marched to Mike Weatherley's office to demonstrate. Who is Mike Weatherley? Nice to see what his priorities are in a time of government lead recession

Mike tweeted that he was at home relaxing and about to choose a film. Anyone know which film?

Never has a constituency needed a by - election more than Pavilion. I wouldn't know - I don't live there

Since you asked.
 




Dandyman

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It would create an upturn in mental health problems. Thus further draining NHS resources. Simple as that,

Lucas' whole approach is a health based one rather than a criminal based one. Keep up the good work.
 






The Merry Prankster

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Massive drug problem in Brighton. Draining on time and resources at RSCH.

I've no idea what your point here is. Agreed, yes - there is a massive drug problem in Brighton.

Agreed, yes - it's a massive drain on resources.

So why not try something radically different from the hugely expensive "War on Drugs" that has so comprehensively failed and left us in this situation.
 


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