[Football] "I don't like VAR any more"

[TomandJerry]

Says Gary Linker

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/67675481

 

[dejavuatbtn]

Join the club.

 

[fly high]

It's not VAR itself which is the problem it's the morons running it. How long did it take them before they told the ref to review on the monitor? They took long enough for the Forest pen against us, took even longer yesterday for the Palace pen. Always looking for a way to disallow goals, killing football we love.

 

[Eeyore]

VAR has a place. I always think of when Ireland were knocked out the World Cup by a clearly handled goal.

I think the offside rule needs a clear margin of error added and the handball rule sorted out.

 

[fly high]

VAR has a place. I always think of when Ireland were knocked out the World Cup by a clearly handled goal.

I think the offside rule needs a clear margin of error added and the handball rule sorted out.

It also needs a time limit.

 

[A1X]

It's not going to go away. People really need to get used to it.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

It also needs a time limit.

To a degree I agree, what I'd rather is some mechanism to show what's going on in the ground. At the cricket it's on the big screen and you can buy a headphone that shows the process. All we get at football is "VAR check". In Marseille, I thought the lengthy VAR check was against us and had no idea what it's for. At Man utd, I realised that Rashford had taken the ball out via twitter, at Everton I stood there like a lemon without any phone reception wondering what the f*** was going on for Dunks goal. That's bollocks.

What really winds me up is how the commentators on sky announce prior to the crowd knowing what is going to happen "A big cheer is going to go up, VAR say onside" Whose the last to know? Anyone that's bothered to go. Sort. That. Out.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

And whilst I'm at it, I can't stand Linekar or his noncey brother. Slagged off England fans when we got attacked by Russians in Marseille, made MOTD about him when he decided to strip naked and generally thinks he is bigger than football.

CAUC.

 

[tedebear]

It's not going to go away. People really need to get used to it.

I agree but it needs to be vastly improved. More competent (like rugby), much more transparent (like cricket), and it cannot stop the flow of a game, which is tough to do, but thats what is currently happening.

 

[GT49er]

If only we could go back and re-write the script that specifies 'clear and obvious' - although it's clear and obvious to most of us what that should mean, the PGMOL have taken a perverse interpretation of it. If only the rule-makers had said 'glaringly obvious', or made it clear that it was only for use when the referee had made an absolute ricket, or not seen something that went on behind his back, or while he was attending to something else.
And yes, it needs a 15 second time limit, and no slow-mos.

 

[Driver8]

It's not VAR itself which is the problem

It is.

 

[Stat Brother]

It's not going to go away. People really need to get used to it.

and in the unlikely event it did, it would take a matter of minutes before Lineker says on MOTD:-
'well if we had VAR...'

The decision was pawed over for 1/2 an hour on Sky Sports.
Every newspaper ran it on their back page.
Robbie Savage bellowed incoherently on 5-Live
&
TalkSpite devoted an entire day shouting about.

People seem to forget why we have VAR.

 

[Kitcatt]

It is.

It’s not. It works well on the continent

 

[dazzer6666]

The narrative is doing my head in. ‘VAR’ is a person, not a bit of kit. It’s currently another incompetent buffoon second-guessing what the onfield incompetent buffoon has decided, using a crap process with poor communication, poor protocols and unclear rules. If it wasn’t affecting game outcomes so much it would be laughable.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I watched the championship games on TV last night. Given that some of the clips were short, goals only....

Rotherham Swansea: two goals awarded with handballs that would have rightly resulted in 'no goal; handball' decisions.
Sunderland WBA: A goal ruled out for an offside that VAR would have ruled onside
Leicester Plymouth: penalty warded for a decision VAR would have calld 'not a penalty'
Blackburn Leeds: offside goal given as a goal
Shrewsbury Stoke: Penalty given that VAR would have ruled no penalty
Huddersfield Birmingham: handball penalty missed and not given that VAR would have given
Coventry Birmingham: handball pen missed; goal given with 2 offside players blocking GP view

It was a f***ing lottery over key decisions, all of the abover being wrong and all of them correctable by VAR (assuming not managed by the WANKERS who look after it for the EPL.

Nobody complained much about the false decisions however. So provided we accept that 'what happens during the match stays during the match' and not bleat and bitch after 'we wuz robbed' the, yes, I agree with @Guinness Boy, bin VAR.

But....it could be almost perfect with (as we have said so many times), 20 second decision window, unsure then stick with the onfield ref's whimsy, clear blue daylight, and a few other small tweaks (such as VAR ref specialist training then do your f***ing job as the final arbiter).

And....exhale

Oh, and yes, it is here to stay. Like condoms, speed cameras and "it isn't bantz, it's racist".

 

[LamieRobertson]

Has it improved the game?

 

[Monkey Man]

I'd be tempted to give it a year-long break at the end of the season. In that time, have a rethink about why we need it and how we deploy it.

At the moment it feels like nobody is happy with it. Too much inconsistency, too much disruption, and the sense that it takes away more than it contributes. (You witness a goal that takes your breath away, for example, and then the next three minutes are devoted to people hundreds of miles away working out reasons to disallow it.)

VAR was meant to enhance the spectacle. I don't think many people believe that, in its current guise, that's what it's doing.

 

[dazzer6666]

I'd be tempted to give it a year-long break at the end of the season. In that time, have a rethink about why we need it and how we deploy it.

At the moment it feels like nobody is happy with it. Too much inconsistency, too much disruption, and the sense that it takes away more than it contributes. (You witness a goal that takes your breath away, for example, and then the next three minutes are devoted to people hundreds of miles away working out reasons to disallow it.)

VAR was meant to enhance the spectacle. I don't think many people believe that, in its current guise, that's what it's doing.

This….we’re all in a test environment for a piece of ‘software’ that has a load of bugs.

 

[wigman]

I dont like Gary Lineker.
I don't need a pitchside monitor to confirm that he's a pillock of the highest order.
He needs binning along with VAR.

 

[mile oak]

I would like to see fans of all PL clubs start some campaign to remove VAR it spoils the enjoyment of football - Im ok with the ref on the pitch making the (wrong) call rather than the ref off the pitch making the (wrong) VAR call!