How many refugees can you fit in a car?

[Simster]

Yes, we definitely needed another thread on immigration and refugees. Especially one with the same people making the same point yet again.

 

[ThePompousPaladin]

Thanks, so fairly low on mental illness "The prevalence of neurotic disorder (mainly anxiety and depression) was similar
in both hostel and private sector leased accommodation (PSLA) residents at 35-
38%.
But higher on drink and drug abuse.

Yes for people in accommodation, for people on the street, 60%.

 

[ThePompousPaladin]

I bet they are soul destroying. I would imagine unlike PP who stated " most homeless people in this country are suffering from some type of mental illness" that many are severely depressed, but as the Shelter figures showed definitely not " most homeless people in this country are suffering from some type of mental illness".
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Weird how people take out of stats to fit their mindset, i read the stats as showing that those currently on the streets were likely around 60%, those in temporary accommodation lower.

 

[Hastings gull]

Yes, we definitely needed another thread on immigration and refugees. Especially one with the same people making the same point yet again.

But we definitely did not need a pompous know-all, who is clearly fed up with it and yet visits the thread.

 

[Simster]

But we definitely did not need a pompous know-all, who is clearly fed up with it and yet visits the thread.

I'm being pompous perhaps, but not a know-all. You have to admit, this gets discussed ad nauseum every single week.

 

[Soulman]

Weird how people take out of stats to fit their mindset, i read the stats as showing that those currently on the streets were likely around 60%, those in temporary accommodation lower.

So that is "most" is it. The fact that it is lower in temporary accommodation could mean that housing our homeless could bring your "most" down to an even lower number.

 

[Hastings gull]

I'm being pompous perhaps, but not a know-all. You have to admit, this gets discussed ad nauseum every single week.

You are right, it does, but clearly that is because quite a few folk feel that it is important. That is their preference, like the running thread and dad's sunday club, and surely the best course of action for anyone who is fed up with it, is not to tune in. What could be simpler? I recall counting 41 threads on one page, and there is one is about refugees etc -there is so much scope to avoid it. That is all you have to do.

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

Going back somewhat to the original post----how many refugees could you fit in my Ford Transit in the last three weeks

Answer: As many as you want coz its been in the fecking garage having £1500.00 work done

Thank you GOD - are you paying me back coz I don't go to church

 

[BadFish]

It strikes me that there is a hidden benefit to the refugee crisis. People who have ignored the homeless for years are suddenly all about helping them. Shelter and the other charities must be snowed under at the moment.

 

[ThePompousPaladin]

So that is "most" is it. The fact that it is lower in temporary accommodation could mean that housing our homeless could bring your "most" down to an even lower number.

Yes, absolutely.

It begs the question whether accessing support ameliorates mental illness, or whether those that have mental health issues have difficulties accessing the support - a bit of both most likely.

 

[portslade seagull]

this latest flood of migrants/refugees from Northern Africa , Afghanistan , Syria and Iraq represents an enormous problem for Europe , as soon as they landed on the Greek Islands they were fighting amongst themselves , the internet is awash with film of the upheaval caused as these people arrive in Europe and yet some people seem to think that they should be allowed in and that everything will be fine, which, in my opinion , in this instance , is clueless.....!!! There was a massive Arab community in Sydney when i lived there , they do not integrate , they do not want to integrate......that is a fact....!!

On a side note just spent the weekend in Brussels and not integrating is a very good point. walked down Stalingrad plas looking for somewhere to get a drink and was basically ushered out of the cafe's we entered because women or white men were not allowed well when I say ushered it was shoved/pushed so that meant we had to detour around these very friendly people each night making our way into the Christmas market area.
So will they integrate once over here sad to say I seriously doubt it.

 

[pastafarian]

It strikes me that there is a hidden benefit to the refugee crisis. People who have ignored the homeless for years are suddenly all about helping them. Shelter and the other charities must be snowed under at the moment.

I am sure you are correct,however there are 200000 alone(low estimate) destitute "refugees" in the UK who have had their asylum application refused and countless others who have been successful and gained refugee status but who are still destitute. Is this another hidden benefit to the refugee crisis?
No doubt however the 1000`s of UK Citizens who tried but were not suitable to house any of the first batch of Syrians through The Vulnerable Person Relocation Scheme are instead now hammering at the doors of the charities, who are trying desperately to house both accepted refugees and those that have failed the process from a raft of different countries, and are generously offering their spare rooms.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Poor girl. Sooner we get a decent government who gets the importance of proper border controls in this country the better.
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/ne...led_for_ten_years_each_after_Darlington_rape/

 

[carlzeiss]

Poor girl. Sooner we get a decent government who gets the importance of proper border controls in this country the better.
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/ne...led_for_ten_years_each_after_Darlington_rape/

Can't be deported as they are British Citizens and fully entitled to the benefits their status brings .

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[looney]

I am all in favour of Syrian Refugees. as long as

1 We remove twice as many illegals who should be removed anyway! To make room for them.

Preference is Given to Christian and Yadzi/Devil worshippers as they are the most at risk.

 

[looney]

Can't be deported as they are British Citizens and fully entitled to the benefits their status brings .

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You dont know your history very well.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

I am all in favour of Syrian Refugees. as long as

1 We remove twice as many illegals who should be removed anyway! To make room for them.

Preference is Given to Christian and Yadzi/Devil worshippers as they are the most at risk.

I'm not when it is done like this. I thought it was women and children, that's what the government where telling us.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/625521/Secret-Home-Office-plan-YOU-wake-next-door-asylum-seekers-hostel

 

[ditchy]

I have absolutely no idea what this means. I've just said they provide a £5bn surplus. That's after taking into account any prejudicial notion of widespread and systemic 'benefit scrounging', or 'greediness', which incidentally, EU immigrants are less likely, pro rata, to claim than UK natives.

Again, can you provide first-hand evidence to back up the claim that four in every five defendants at the Old Bailey have 'foreign surnames'?



So out of 2m asylum seekers making their way across Europe, 5,000 have pitched up in Calais wanting to head to the UK. Seeing as immigrants make a net contribution to the economy, can you tell me, again using first-source evidence where the assumption lies that they are 'greedy'?

France, by the way, is taking in more refugees than the UK.

Just asking mind , where is the proof they provide a £5bln surplus ?

 

[SI 4 BHA]

Just asking mind , where is the proof they provide a £5bln surplus ?

Partly correct. Seemingly, only European immigrants contribute to the £5bn, non Europeans cost us £118bn over the last 17 years according to the Independent in a report in November 2014.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...y-but-non-eu-migrants-cost-118bn-9840170.html

 

[carlzeiss]

I'm not when it is done like this. I thought it was women and children, that's what the government where telling us.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/625521/Secret-Home-Office-plan-YOU-wake-next-door-asylum-seekers-hostel

The vast majority of " refugees " from France are young single men , the people that the Government are importing from the camps in Turkey are more likely to be women , children and other more vulnerable cases