How long until we can vote the Greens OUT?

[The Birdman]

2 years no traffic no meat you voted them in Ha Ha

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

So what does the local authority do to alleviate this, bearing in mind they're not actually allowed to do anything?.

I hesitate to say it but....... It's all Thatcher's fault from the deregulation of the buses.

To be fair, the Big Lemon idea was probably precisely what they wanted to happen, but deregulation meant that the other bigger companies could do whatever was necessary to put it out of business. There was a TV play about similar things a while ago in Scotland - Brian whateverhisname was or is - who started up Stagecoach originally in Scotland. The bad side of the market economy.

Edit: Brian Souter - just looked it up.

 

[Dan Gleeballs]

The lewes road bus route is an absolute farce!

Exactly a complete waste of time & money. Whether the greens are responsible or not theres was nothing wrong with the roads as they were. The traffic on the whole flows fairly well around the city. You wait until the summer when tourism is up & suddenly there's even less room for all these cars that'll descend upon the city. Should really help with pollution levels I think not!!!!

 

[Lincoln Imp]

The fact that I didn't spend £20 on a pair of glasses in London Road Boots a while ago isn't in itself the greatest financial reverse the city has faced but I calculated on the way home that the non-purchase took the total amount I have not spent in Brighton & Hove in the last few months as a direct result of the parking charges to over £2000. That's the reality and I'm just one out-of-town person with a normal spending pattern. Some of the money was spent online, the rest in Mid-Sussex.

I'm not making a political statement but if Green councillors think I'm going to spend £3.50 in order to stop in a deserted street for five minutes in order to buy £11's worth of fish and chips then I'm afraid they must be living in a parallel universe.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

As an outsider, who comes down to Brighton only to watch The Albion, visit family, go shopping or have a night out, I do find Brighton has become very anti car. Whilst we still come to see family, we do now often shop elsewhere where parking is cheaper, and assessability to the town centre is better.

parking charges are crazy high and traffic and queues to get into Brighton are appalling.

I therefore understand the need to improve Public transport. Problem is it's very expensive (for one off trips) and doesn't solve the problem of how those coming from the north get into Brighton.

How about a massive Park and ride at or around Pyecombe or even further south at Patcham? Perhaps the Albion could use it on match days?

 

[Guinness Boy]

It would be interesting to know if the changes will mean MORE buses running or just the existing ones running "better". The report doesn't say. It's fairly important because has anyone tried using a Googling bus to/from town centre on a summer weekend? Top deck full of foreign students, bottom deck full of grannies travelling for free. I like buses and try to live green (as opposed to how the Greens tell you to live) but getting two kids, a buggy and shopping on to one of these services is a ruddy nightmare. We tend to try it once or twice before remembering why we stopped and go back to the car. At least in a traffic jam you have a seat and your own music. You do pollute a bit though.

 

[melias shoes]

The greens can **** right off

Did you vote at the last election? The reason they got in is because many chose to stay away on the day. I'm glad that I've moved just outside of Brighton.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

The fact that I didn't spend £20 on a pair of glasses in London Road Boots a while ago isn't in itself the greatest financial reverse the city has faced but I calculated on the way home that the non-purchase took the total amount I have not spent in Brighton & Hove in the last few months as a direct result of the parking charges to over £2000. That's the reality and I'm just one out-of-town person with a normal spending pattern. Some of the money was spent online, the rest in Mid-Sussex.

I'm not making a political statement but if Green councillors think I'm going to spend £3.50 in order to stop in a deserted street for five minutes in order to buy £11's worth of fish and chips then I'm afraid they must be living in a parallel universe.

It shouldn't be all about High St spending. Less cars means better quality of life for the residents of Brighton.

 

[Guinness Boy]

It shouldn't be all about High St spending. Less cars means better quality of life for the residents of Brighton.

Less high street spending means your favourite local shops closing......

 

[Lincoln Imp]

It shouldn't be all about High St spending. Less cars means better quality of life for the residents of Brighton.

Yep, you're right. I'll pop over to Eastbourne and destroy the place with random purchases.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Er.. I think you'll find that you can do that at the next Council election (May 2015 for unitary authorities like Brighton and Hove, if you can't be bothered to look it up)

Will Lewes Rd be finished before their only term ends?

 

[looney]

Bus wankers!!!!!!!

 

[albion534]

It would be interesting to know if the changes will mean MORE buses running or just the existing ones running "better". The report doesn't say. It's fairly important because has anyone tried using a Googling bus to/from town centre on a summer weekend? Top deck full of foreign students, bottom deck full of grannies travelling for free. I like buses and try to live green (as opposed to how the Greens tell you to live) but getting two kids, a buggy and shopping on to one of these services is a ruddy nightmare. We tend to try it once or twice before remembering why we stopped and go back to the car. At least in a traffic jam you have a seat and your own music. You do pollute a bit though.

Whether im in my car or on a bus, my ass will pollute the surrounding area, so im savings peoples nose hair by doing it in my car

 

[les dynam]

I voted Green. An i'll be doing so again, they've been great. Really impressed with them. Also voted for Lucas as my MP, and she's also been superb. So will get my vote next time round too.

 

[melias shoes]

I voted Green. An i'll be doing so again, they've been great. Really impressed with them. Also voted for Lucas as my MP, and she's also been superb. So will get my vote next time round too.

 

[yxee]

Is your beef the fact that there would be better bus and cycle routes - or that B&H Buses holds a near-monopoly on the bus routes; something the local authority can't do anything about?

Why can't they do anything? Are you saying they have no power? Tell B&H buses they can't use the bus lanes until they lower their prices. Tax them. I'm sure the council could find a way if they wanted to. That should make the managers of B&H less comfortable taking over £5m profit per year.

 

[Tory Boy]

How long?

Too long.

TB

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

It shouldn't be all about High St spending. Less cars means better quality of life for the residents of Brighton.

That is of course true to a certain extent, but it means that shops, pubs etc suffer.

 

[The Andy Naylor Fan Club]

Don't disagree. The season tickets are a reasonable price; the single price isn't.

Said this before, but - even though I've no hard evidence for it - I believe Go-Ahead (B&H Buses' parent company) are milking bus fares in the city because they know they have a large - and growing - audience in a way they don't in other areas they operate.

It would be interesting to know if Brighton and Hove city council own any shares in The Go-ahead group.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

The Big Lemon was amazing. A pioneer in the bus industry. £1 return tickets and ran on waste cooking oil. What more could you ask for in a city that is run by the Green party? Brighton busses then cut the price of their 25 route to eliminate the Big Lemon, and straight after it [The Big Lemon] went out of business, they hiked the prices up.

Is that the same Big Lemon that is currently running subsidised bus services in Brighton, funded by the City Council?