Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
I thought they'd be really great for the city, alas not how it has turned out in my opinion.
Now it seems like they have been in forever, and I can't wait to vote them OUT on my ballot paper.
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I thought they'd be really great for the city, alas not how it has turned out in my opinion.
Now it seems like they have been in forever, and I can't wait to vote them OUT on my ballot paper.
BensGrandad
New member
Why did the old Brighton Blue buses stop running many years ago. I am fairly sure that they offered competition to the then Southdown company buses.
If the £60 monthly ticket quoted is correct, that's pretty good value.
What isn't good value is, as others have said, the price of a single/return ticket. £4.40 for a bus to and from town is extortionate (from Patcham), and it is cheaper, and easier for me to drive and park in town. Compare that to Sheffield, where I pay 80p for a single.
What isn't good value is, as others have said, the price of a single/return ticket. £4.40 for a bus to and from town is extortionate (from Patcham), and it is cheaper, and easier for me to drive and park in town. Compare that to Sheffield, where I pay 80p for a single.
seagullsovergrimsby
#cpfctinpotclub
If B&H Buses didn't make a profit they wouldn't invest around £4M a year in brand new buses to replace older vehicles in the fleet.
Garage_Doors
Originally the Swankers
Do they run a 25 service?
East Preston Gull
New member
The greenies have to realise that not everyone who works in Brighton is an office worker. I am unable to get a van load of tools on the bloody bus! They are making it so hard to drive and park a van in the city! I may move to Brighton just so I can vote them out!!!
Lord Bracknell
On fire
What an excellent scheme!
Before the City Council ever came into existence and East Sussex County Council was the transport authority for Brighton, and I was a public transport planner for ESCC, I remember having a conversation with Steve Bassam (then the Labour leader of Brighton Borough Council) about the practicalities of introducing bus lanes along Edward Street and Eastern Road. He was dead keen. The biggest problem was getting the funding package together.
This now seems to have been overcome, thanks to the Coalition Government and Norman Baker, Minister for Local Transport.
So ... it's not so much a Green idea, but an idea that started with Labour and now has the backing of a Conservative government, a Lib-Dem minister and a Green-led council.
seagullsovergrimsby
#cpfctinpotclub
Route 44 ? Uni Shuttle service , funded by University of Brighton to give free travel to students and staff.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Big Lemon still run a service along Lewes Road, specifically for Brighton University students (who were the main users of the earlier service that they ran).
Lord Bracknell
On fire
They were privatised by the Thatcher government and sold off to their management and staff, who subsequently cashed in, by selling off the company to Brighton & Hove Buses.
Southdown were also sold off (in several chunks) to their managers. All parts of the Southdown family then cashed in, by selling on either to Stagecoach or to the Go Ahead Group.
And the other thing about Brighton's blue buses before privatisation ... it was NOTHING to do with competition. The Council owned the blue bus company, Southdown and Brighton, Hove & District were nationalised companies. The three companies shared the network with each other, agreed all the routes and timetables. And the fares from all three companies were pooled together and divvied out in accordance with an agreed formula. Fares were also agreed between the three companies, which effectively meant that Brighton Council set them - because councillors had to vote to agree what fares should be charged on every service in the area (including Hove and Shoreham, incidentally).
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Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
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Hopefully they won't be voted out before they've finished reclaiming the town from speeding twattish private motorists and made it a nicer town to stroll around. That's the future.
Barrel of Fun
Abort, retry, fail
Whilst I applaud moves to cut out motorists from the city centre, I think Brighton and Hove buses are money grabbing tools. It's a no win for me.
albion534
Well-known member
What about abusive cyclists who run reds, abuse pedestrians even when the green man is showing as they don't want to slow down? Works both ways?
Even the buses are mental at rush hour if the driver is pissed off
albion534
Well-known member
I've not got a problem with buses as you said, but my god £4.40 for a return? No thanks!
Ninja Elephant
Doctor Elephant
- Feb 16, 2009
- 18,855
The Big Lemon stinks. Not sure what of though...
£3.50 one day ticket on your mobile is world class value.
£3.50 one day ticket on your mobile is world class value.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 72,359
Not a big fan of cyclists doing that stuff, but can't really blame them for taking their chances v pedestrians against taking their chances v cars. If I was a cyclist I know which I'd choose if I wanted to stand the best chance of returning home in one piece of an evening. The way forward seems to me to make the roads safe for pedestrians and cyclists, and the cars can be diverted somewhere where they can do less damage. Disagree? OK, explain why our pride and joy, our seafront, is a roaring dual carriageway? What's that all about?
Barrel of Fun
Abort, retry, fail
How many people does that benefit? Edging towards decent value for those that travel more than two journeys, but how many people do that?
As an aside, how often does the number 7 George Street want to run? Frequently there are two stopped outside Brighton station most evenings.
Were the main users of the old Big Lemon service not Sussex University students, rather than Brighton University students? That was my experience. I'll admit that's being pedantic but as a Sussex alumni I don't want to be lumped in with the lot from Brighton.
Winker
CUM ON FEEL THE NOIZE
The only way to cut traffic in the city but not reduce the footfall is to have major park and ride schemes on all the main entry routes. None of the political parties will look at this for some reason, probably because they only look short-term to the next election rather than have a future vision for the city.
The current policy of "Oh look - there is a bit of dual carriageway, let's block half of it up to motorists" is just gesture politics which will achieve nothing but rising air pollution and a decrease in visitor numbers to the city. There isn't a problem on Edward Street, don't create one.
The current policy of "Oh look - there is a bit of dual carriageway, let's block half of it up to motorists" is just gesture politics which will achieve nothing but rising air pollution and a decrease in visitor numbers to the city. There isn't a problem on Edward Street, don't create one.
Garage_Doors
Originally the Swankers
So it's not a public service as per the old 25 but a private service for uni students only?