[Politics] How long can Johnson survive as PM?

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How long has the PM got?

  • He's toast, resignation is imminent

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • After the upcoming by elections

    Votes: 46 33.8%
  • Ousted after the party conference season

    Votes: 37 27.2%
  • He'll survive to fight the next election

    Votes: 32 23.5%
  • He'll turn it round and win a second term

    Votes: 20 14.7%

  • Total voters
    136
  • Poll closed .


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Skin thicker than a crocodile, he will have to be dragged kicking and buffooning.
 
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Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
58,792
hassocks
He’s hamstrung … it’s going to be long a tortuous affair for Boris … and I for one am going to thoroughly enjoy his slow demise.

The by-elections are going to be crucial. If the showing is bad as predicted then his pain will only get worse …. I’m easily pleased.

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It just depends on how much the rebels want him out, they could just not vote for anything

Will local pressure carry on building.

I can see him calling another election before resigning.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,697
The Fatherland






nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,574
Gods country fortnightly
There is another scenario I didn't really cover in the poll.

What about Johnson calls a snap election? He was asked about this last night and twice avoided answering. He's a risk taker...
 


Don Quixote

Well-known member
Nov 4, 2008
8,362
He will stay and win the next election, which he will call sooner rather than later, but with a reduced majority. So probably a good few more years.
 


Surf's Up

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2011
10,435
Here
Johnson hand picked the Cabinet with two things in mind:

1. They'll be individually obsequious and unchallenging towards him irrespective of his behaviour, mistakes or piss poor leadership i.e. with this very situation in mind
2. They're individually and collectively as thick as shit
 




usernamed

New member
Aug 31, 2017
763
He needs something to rebuild his authority (this is all about his own party, not Britain) - I think he will call a general election early, and I think the right wing press will run a non-stop smear campaign against Starmer/Labour under the fantasy that voting for them would reverse Brexit.

Despite all of his incompetence, mismanagement and outright bullying lies, I fear he may win. Controlling the press is a powerful tool, and there’s no doubt in my mind that Boris/Boris donors control the press. This is the Conservative Party’s fault for allowing something so rotten to take control of it. I fear it may never let go.

Meanwhile our health services, social care, policing, education and armed forces are all in tatters, and millions of people are at risk of homelessness and unemployment. This could actually get so much worse.

There still appear to be plenty of people prepared to vote for their own impoverishment, because it’s their tribe doing it to them, and they like having the bragging rights however much it hurts them and theirs. If that’s the hill they want to die on, it’s their choice, but these acts of self-harm seem incredibly perverse to me.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,574
Gods country fortnightly
He will stay and win the next election, which he will call sooner rather than later, but with a reduced majority. So probably a good few more years.

Yes this is it. He's rather call a snap election and risk taking the ship down with him than risk being ousted by his own party.
 


rogersix

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2014
8,202
I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s re-elected In 24

i would be astonished if he's pm at xmas, it would be a gift for labour as there's absolutely zero chance he'll win in 24, the electorate won't forget
 
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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
The LibDems are tabling a motion of No Confidence in the Commons. I wonder if the 148 will vote against him?
 




zefarelly

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
22,787
Sussex, by the sea
He needs something to rebuild his authority (this is all about his own party, not Britain) - I think he will call a general election early, and I think the right wing press will run a non-stop smear campaign against Starmer/Labour under the fantasy that voting for them would reverse Brexit.

Despite all of his incompetence, mismanagement and outright bullying lies, I fear he may win. Controlling the press is a powerful tool, and there’s no doubt in my mind that Boris/Boris donors control the press. This is the Conservative Party’s fault for allowing something so rotten to take control of it. I fear it may never let go.

Meanwhile our health services, social care, policing, education and armed forces are all in tatters, and millions of people are at risk of homelessness and unemployment. This could actually get so much worse.

There still appear to be plenty of people prepared to vote for their own impoverishment, because it’s their tribe doing it to them, and they like having the bragging rights however much it hurts them and theirs. If that’s the hill they want to die on, it’s their choice, but these acts of self-harm seem incredibly perverse to me.

Agreed.
 










GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
49,186
Gloucester
He needs something to rebuild his authority (this is all about his own party, not Britain) - I think he will call a general election early, and I think the right wing press will run a non-stop smear campaign against Starmer/Labour under the fantasy that voting for them would reverse Brexit.
Labour's 'red wall' that voted for Brexit, and voted for the Tories to make sure it happened will remain deeply suspicious of Labour as long as it resolutely refuses to commit itself to remaining outside the EU. As long as there is talk of a centre left coalition - with a party whose stated aim is to overturn the result of the referendum and attempt to negotiate a re-entry to the EU - the red wall ain't coming back home.
Smear camaign by the demonic right wing press to scare people against voting Labour? They won't even have a job to do!
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,119
Faversham
the thing about the cabinet is theyre all psycopathic back stabbibg shysters with little discernible talent combined, so there is little danger of improvement . . .which is probably why Johnson is still there, he has skin thick enough to keep ordering wallpaper and pouring drinks and **** the rest of us.

It's not only astounding the tories are so bad and in charge, but the opposition parties are so poor as well. . anyone half decent would have Boris hung drawn and quartered by now.

The last thing we need is Starmer gobbing off on a weekly basis. If you recall, little William Hague used to monster Blair every week at PMQs, but it mattered not.

In case you hadn't noticed, normality has resumed in Labour. A challenger candidate needs 50 labour MPs to get on the slate if there is a leadership challenge. There is no way the MPs will play silly buggers like they did when they put the oaf Corbyn on the ballot. Therefore much to the annoyance of the hard left, the door is now firmly shut in their faces, no matter how many polytechnic lecturerers and trade union 'researchers' there are sitting on the national executive.

And until a general election is announced there is no point spaffing innovative policies into the aether (for Johnson to ridicule, then steal and claim for his own).
 
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birthofanorange

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 31, 2011
6,500
David Gilmour's armpit
Fail in the upcoming elections and I can't see him staying for long, afterwards. Besides, imagine going into work knowing that nearly half your so-called colleagues dislike you so much, that they actually voted for you to lose your job.
 


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