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How do you think Boris has handled it so far ?

How do you think Boris has handled Covid 19 so far ?

  • Superb

    Votes: 27 10.8%
  • Very Good

    Votes: 63 25.1%
  • Good

    Votes: 56 22.3%
  • Average

    Votes: 22 8.8%
  • Poor

    Votes: 44 17.5%
  • Very Poor

    Votes: 39 15.5%

  • Total voters
    251
  • Poll closed .


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
where is Boris Johnson ???

Making sure he is not being associated with the humdrum problems of a lack of testing, localised shortages of PPE, the scandal of the increasing and heartbreaking level of fatalities in care homes among others. He will return when the news climate is less critical.
 




Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,778
Fiveways
where is Boris Johnson ???

I've been speculating the exact same thing myself, but have reined back from posting this thought in case I'm accused of being distasteful. It's in stark contrast to the information we were given pre-hospitalisation (in which, and I'm being generous here, the information released was 'managed'). He's been out of hospital now for 10 days IIRC, and we know that he didn't require a ventilator, so I'm wondering how this compares to other recoveries. Given his brilliance at managing his public profile, and also the fact that he is quite obviously an outstanding public communicator, I'm somewhat perplexed by what's been going on. But, then again, I was somewhat perplexed at his withdrawal from the leadership contest in 2016.
On a related note, where is Dominic Cummings?
 


melias shoes

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2010
4,830
The UK had a stockpile too. As illustrated, unprecedented events can make the well-prepared look ill-prepared almost overnight.

You're wasting your time. They know better. The usual suspects making political gain from a Global pandemic.
 


Wrong-Direction

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2013
13,639
You're wasting your time. They know better. The usual suspects making political gain from a Global pandemic.
My misses treated a women yesterday that had lost her husband to the virus, she too had the virus and is about to have her leg amputated (unrelated). She has already missed her husband's funeral.
My misses finally got some PPE though, it's a shame shes not XXL..
If people want to talk politics, they are fully entitled to!

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CheeseRolls

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 27, 2009
6,232
Shoreham Beach
I've been speculating the exact same thing myself, but have reined back from posting this thought in case I'm accused of being distasteful. It's in stark contrast to the information we were given pre-hospitalisation (in which, and I'm being generous here, the information released was 'managed'). He's been out of hospital now for 10 days IIRC, and we know that he didn't require a ventilator, so I'm wondering how this compares to other recoveries. Given his brilliance at managing his public profile, and also the fact that he is quite obviously an outstanding public communicator, I'm somewhat perplexed by what's been going on. But, then again, I was somewhat perplexed at his withdrawal from the leadership contest in 2016.
On a related note, where is Dominic Cummings?

Ten days is not much time to make a full recovery. Obviously everyone is different, but I would guess 4-6 weeks is not unreasonable to make a full recovery. From personal experience getting your brain back into gear after a trauma like this, can be slower than the physical recovery.
 




Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
14,274
Cumbria
I've been speculating the exact same thing myself, but have reined back from posting this thought in case I'm accused of being distasteful. It's in stark contrast to the information we were given pre-hospitalisation (in which, and I'm being generous here, the information released was 'managed'). He's been out of hospital now for 10 days IIRC, and we know that he didn't require a ventilator, so I'm wondering how this compares to other recoveries. Given his brilliance at managing his public profile, and also the fact that he is quite obviously an outstanding public communicator, I'm somewhat perplexed by what's been going on. But, then again, I was somewhat perplexed at his withdrawal from the leadership contest in 2016.
On a related note, where is Dominic Cummings?

Ten days is not much time to make a full recovery. Obviously everyone is different, but I would guess 4-6 weeks is not unreasonable to make a full recovery. From personal experience getting your brain back into gear after a trauma like this, can be slower than the physical recovery.

My sister had the fever symptoms for a week, started recovering, then had the breathlessness - which all got quite worrying. She avoided the hospital, and is recovering. But around 12 days after the recovery period began (ie: when we stopped being too worried) she still has trouble talking to me on the phone for more than a few minutes because she runs out of breath. Depending on how you've been affected, it can take a while. Her doctor mentioned 'months'.
 




CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,097
Well he got to speak to Trump on the phone at least so he must be doing okay. Also is speaking to the Queen this week.


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Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,778
Fiveways
My sister had the fever symptoms for a week, started recovering, then had the breathlessness - which all got quite worrying. She avoided the hospital, and is recovering. But around 12 days after the recovery period began (ie: when we stopped being too worried) she still has trouble talking to me on the phone for more than a few minutes because she runs out of breath. Depending on how you've been affected, it can take a while. Her doctor mentioned 'months'.

Thanks to you and [MENTION=12901]CheeseRolls[/MENTION] for disabusing me of my assumptions
 




melias shoes

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2010
4,830
My misses treated a women yesterday that had lost her husband to the virus, she too had the virus and is about to have her leg amputated (unrelated). She has already missed her husband's funeral.
My misses finally got some PPE though, it's a shame shes not XXL..
If people want to talk politics, they are fully entitled to!

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Yes I know someone who has died from it too. I'm glad your wife has her ppe and I'm sure she's doing a fantastic job and I will be applauding her tonight. I hope she stays safe.
 




melias shoes

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2010
4,830
Been 5 weeks for me so far and nowhere near fully recovered.
Am certainly a lot better but still get exhausted/weak/wobbly very quickly and have to take regular rests during the day.
Good luck and I hope you make a full recovery.
 










A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
20,558
Deepest, darkest Sussex
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The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,205
West is BEST
Do you know if all the £1.3 billion of 'stuff' is being delivered in one lot, or is it being staggered - if it's all in one lot then I'll be staggered. If it's being staggered do we know what the rationale is for delivering to those that need it? For example, is it in proportion to each countries need or their order size? If it's order size then I see that being open to abuse as larger and richer countries could deliberately over-order knowing that they'll get a larger proportion of the delivery immediately but not necessarily needing all of it right now. Which raises another question - who's dealing with the logistics of these deliveries? Are they going to a central repository or are they being shipped directly to those individual countries - and if so in what proportion? I doubt that you have the answers to all of these questions but you seem to have many more of the facts than some of us, so I see you as the one to ask.

Also, when you talk about an anti-EU stance, I would advise against using a pro-EU stance too. 'GB got a delivery of PPE today from Turkey that remains sitting in crates on a runway' is extremely pejorative and, as I suspect you know, not true.

Not far from the truth really, is it.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rying-ppe-from-turkey-lands-in-uk-coronavirus

Would be nice to have an explanation as to why the tonnes of British PPE, sitting in British warehouses that has been offered to the government is being ignored.
 


Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
Would be nice to have an explanation as to why the tonnes of British PPE, sitting in British warehouses that has been offered to the government is being ignored.

I saw something on BBC news channel about this.

Usually the NHS has a trusted list of suppliers who have been vetted and proved they're selling legit equipment. When this kicked off the NHS had about 8000 offers to sell them PPE which was too much for them to cope with as they have to do the checking process, he said that amongst the good offers are a lot of opportunistic companies trying to sell counterfeit PPE.

Some of the legit companies went to the press to say they were being ignored without understanding the system had been overwhelmed
 




Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
24,785
GOSBTS
I saw something on BBC news channel about this.

Usually the NHS has a trusted list of suppliers who have been vetted and proved they're selling legit equipment. When this kicked off the NHS had about 8000 offers to sell them PPE which was too much for them to cope with as they have to do the checking process, he said that amongst the good offers are a lot of opportunistic companies trying to sell counterfeit PPE.

Some of the legit companies went to the press to say they were being ignored without understanding the system had been overwhelmed

Can vouch for this as a close family member works for central NHS and this is a problem.
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,479
Brighton
Noises now that he will be back in work from Monday.
 


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