How do you think Boris has handled it so far ?

[WATFORD zero]

I suspect the news of how and when lockdown may begin to be eased will be combined with the return of Johnson.

Well that would be a happy coincidence, if he's back just in time to give some good news.

 

[Mellotron]

Well that would be a happy coincidence, if he's back just in time to give some good news.

Just like the coincidence of his first public video after the illness being Easter Sunday.

Even if it sounds like I’m being cynical, I also acknowledge that it’ll probably work on the majority of the population, and Brexit showed that this team are pretty good at persuading people towards a particular message.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Brexit showed that this team are pretty good at persuading people towards a particular message.

Pretty good? Cummings is a propaganda genius, he could make the majority of the Country eat their one shite if he wanted. Now that he is in control of SAGE, the science is going to be popularist and 100% behind Mr Johnson’s libertarian values despite the thousands of elderly & vulnerable lives that will be lost so that his Dad can get down the pub ASAP.

 

[Machiavelli]

Just like the coincidence of his first public video after the illness being Easter Sunday.

Even if it sounds like I’m being cynical, I also acknowledge that it’ll probably work on the majority of the population, and Brexit showed that this team are pretty good at persuading people towards a particular message.

Yup, I'm no fan of Johnson but he is, without doubt, an outstanding communicator.

 

[Jim D]

Who is criticising the NHS? Certainly not me.

Of course you aren't, not even by implication.

 

[beorhthelm]

It said they had been at meetings, plural, and also involved in forming advice

Do you think they should have been?

i just dont think it matters much. the implication is they alter decision by their presence, i dont see 20 odd scientists are going to be swayed by a couple of spads. and as they werent, so its a non-story.

 

[WATFORD zero]

i just dont think it matters much. the implication is they alter decision by their presence, i dont see 20 odd scientists are going to be swayed by a couple of spads. and as they werent, so its a non-story.

Of course it doesn't. I can't imagine those two particular Spads influencing anything, can you ?

 

[Albion Dan]

Pretty good? Cummings is a propaganda genius, he could make the majority of the Country eat their one shite if he wanted. Now that he is in control of SAGE, the science is going to be popularist and 100% behind Mr Johnson’s libertarian values despite the thousands of elderly & vulnerable lives that will be lost so that his Dad can get down the pub ASAP.

Get a grip. The prolonged impact of restriction measures will have a far worse impact on death rates long term because of an economic implosion than the current disease. I for one hope tough decisions are made looking at the bigger picture and the benefit of long term society.

 

[beorhthelm]

Of course it doesn't. I can't imagine those two particular Spads influencing anything, can you ?

they might try, i'd back the career scientist outnumbering the spads 10-1. this isnt a soft politicians.

 

[WATFORD zero]

they might try, i'd back the career scientist outnumbering the spads 10-1. this isnt a soft politicians.

You obviously have a lot of experience of the power of Spads backed by their political masters

Dominic Cummings, Damian McBride and Alistair Campbell were absolute pussies if you knew how to handle them

Not to mention the fact that Cameron, Balls, Clegg, Milliband and Osborne all got started as Spads.

 

[RossyG]

Get a grip. The prolonged impact of restriction measures will have a far worse impact on death rates long term because of an economic implosion than the current disease. I for one hope tough decisions are made looking at the bigger picture and the benefit of long term society.

Same.

 

[The Clamp]

Of course you aren't, not even by implication.

I haven’t implied anything of the sort. You’re looking for something that isn’t there, I’m afraid.

 

[Jim D]

I haven’t implied anything of the sort. You’re looking for something that isn’t there, I’m afraid.

Isn't that what I said?

 

[The Clamp]

Isn't that what I said?

I read it as you being sarcastic, that’s how it came across.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Pretty good? Cummings is a propaganda genius, he could make the majority of the Country eat their one shite if he wanted. Now that he is in control of SAGE, the science is going to be popularist and 100% behind Mr Johnson’s libertarian values despite the thousands of elderly & vulnerable lives that will be lost so that his Dad can get down the pub ASAP.

Why can’t those people isolate and the rest get back to work?

People are losing jobs and businesses every day.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Why can’t those people isolate and the rest get back to work?

They obviously can but how? Let’s wait for the plan on how it is done, the government however, need to improve their shielding tactics as we’ve seen Covid-19 rampage through many care homes almost unchallenged.

 

[Bakero]

Pretty good? Cummings is a propaganda genius, he could make the majority of the Country eat their one shite if he wanted. Now that he is in control of SAGE, the science is going to be popularist and 100% behind Mr Johnson’s libertarian values despite the thousands of elderly & vulnerable lives that will be lost so that his Dad can get down the pub ASAP.

Hugo, I agree with a lot of what you say but I do wish you'd say populist rather than popularist.

 

[The Lemming Stomper]

Hugo, I agree with a lot of what you say but I do wish you'd say populist rather than popularist.

And own shite rather than one shite

 

[Hugo Rune]

And own shite rather than one shite

I was thinking that even Cummings would only ever make them eat one....................[emoji4]

 

[cjd]

Cummings should have been smothered at birth.