This is shocking. They are lying to us.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...o-buy-covid-19-medical-supplies-say-officials
You seem surprised a Boris led government is lying?
This is shocking. They are lying to us.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...o-buy-covid-19-medical-supplies-say-officials
This is shocking. They are lying to us.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...o-buy-covid-19-medical-supplies-say-officials
Exactly. There's some though that won't ever give it up - as shown on here. I suspect that, as on the Brexit thread, the 2 to 1 split will remain to the end, with no-one switching from their entrenched position (which to some extent makes discussion pointless).
When this is all over, and grandparents have been reunited with their children and grandchildren and the dead have been buried, there will still be voices crying out, "Yes, but we got through it in spite of Boris!"
It shouldn't come as a surprise that Johnson lies.This is shocking. They are lying to us.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...o-buy-covid-19-medical-supplies-say-officials
I suspect you may be right on that front. One positive I have noticed in all this is that people have finally forgotten about their Brexit arguments and are (mostly) united again, helping each other through difficult times - but maybe I'm being naïve to hope that will continue once it all settles down!
Exactly. There's some though that won't ever give it up - as shown on here. I suspect that, as on the Brexit thread, the 2 to 1 split will remain to the end, with no-one switching from their entrenched position (which to some extent makes discussion pointless).
When this is all over, and grandparents have been reunited with their children and grandchildren and the dead have been buried, there will still be voices crying out, "Yes, but we got through it in spite of Boris!"
We are facing a real crisis. Why waste time asking hypothetical questions about something which they had 'months of warning' for. Let's stick to discussing Coronavirus, which took the whole world by surprise, without warning.Do you think there is any level of preparation a government should undertake for a public health crisis that it has months of warning for?
What is going to be the tipping point where you start to feel they might have contributed to the catastrophe?
That is because those Brexit arguments were never as important as the constant Brexit overload forced into peoples' heads on a daily basis made out.I suspect you may be right on that front. One positive I have noticed in all this is that people have finally forgotten about their Brexit arguments and are (mostly) united again, helping each other through difficult times - but maybe I'm being naïve to hope that will continue once it all settles down!
We are facing a real crisis. Why waste time asking hypothetical questions about something which they had 'months of warning' for. Let's stick to discussing Coronavirus, which took the whole world by surprise, without warning.
We watched it unfolding in China, Italy and then Spain.
No we didn't. It had already happened in China before we knew anything about it. The WHO first recognised it on 31st. December; the first case in the UK occurred in late January - less than a month later. The first death was recorded 6 weeks further on. Some people's definition of 'months of warning' is seriously skewed by their own agenda..We watched it unfolding in China, Italy and then Spain.
No we didn't. It had already happened in China before we knew anything about it. The WHO first recognised it on 31st. December; the first case in the UK occurred in late January - less than a month later. The first death was recorded 6 weeks further on. Some people's definition of 'months of warning' is seriously skewed by their own agenda..
No we didn't. It had already happened in China before we knew anything about it. The WHO first recognised it on 31st. December; the first case in the UK occurred in late January - less than a month later. The first death was recorded 6 weeks further on. Some people's definition of 'months of warning' is seriously skewed by their own agenda..
This was at the advice of chief scientists. Do you think they should have disobeyed what the experts were telling them? When the scientific advice then changed, the government changed the strategy.I didn't actually say months but to claim we didn't have any warning would be disingenuous. The whole of February and deep into March the British government seemed to pulling off the impressive feat of sitting on their hands whilst having their fingers in their ears. I had countless conversations with people about the lack of action in both the UK and Spain.
Well, this current thing about whether we did or did not discuss with our friends in the EU the idea of bulk buying has rather brought the Brexit schism back on to this thread, for some anyway. Hopefully it will pass, and we'll get back to the more positive scenario you and I had both noticed.
I didn't actually say months but to claim we didn't have any warning would be disingenuous. The whole of February and deep into March the British government seemed to pulling off the impressive feat of sitting on their hands whilst having their fingers in their ears. I had countless conversations with people about the lack of action in both the UK and Spain.
Strangely we ARE in a crisis and we should be EXPECTING excellence from our elected representatives.
No, you didn't, but some people (as stated in my post) did.
The idea that the Government spent weeks sitting on their hands with their fingers in their ears is almost on a level with the bloke who claimed they had years/decades to prepare facepalm. They were following the advice of the experts. Surely you didn't expect the Boris Johnson or Rishi Sunak to be virology experts? - it's not one of the normal qualifications one would expect for the leaders of a country.
This was at the advice of chief scientists. Do you think they should have disobeyed what the experts were telling them? When the scientific advice then changed, the government changed the strategy.
And of course, we still don't know whether our current strategy - or that of any other country - will turn out to be the correct one yet. But the best thing to do is always to follow the advice of the experts, as they have a better chance of getting it right than the media or general public.