But what is your opinion based upon? Where is YOUR evidence upon which you have based your opinion? But carry on spouting your senseless insensitive drivel, and we will carry on laughing at your pathetic ignorance.
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Hillsborough prosecutions
- Thread starter The Large One
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But what is your opinion based upon? Where is YOUR evidence upon which you have based your opinion? But carry on spouting your senseless insensitive drivel, and we will carry on laughing at your pathetic ignorance.
You say that, but the Sun said, the fans urinated on the coppers, and robbed the dead and injured, it was in the Sun so it must be true
Surely there are two aspects here.
Firstly, were there ticketless fans at the game or trying to get to the game. Almost certainly yes. Anyone that went to football would know that people went without tickets. If they didn't, to whom would the touts be selling tickets too? Every big game would have touts so why would the semi final of the FA Cup be any different.
Secondly, and more relevantly, did the presence of ticketless fans contribute to the disaster. The conclusion of the inquest is that they didn't.
There was a myriad of circumstances that contributed to what happened. Decisions by the Police, both on the day and in the build up, previous behaviour of fans (from many clubs) that led to erection of cages, the design of the stadium, lack of available medics and the delay in recognizing what was actually happening as it unfolded etc etc. As HB & B pointed out, in the build up the Police seemed to ignore past practice which seemed to have been effective but not sure anyone believes this was done with 'malice' towards football supporters. With the benefit of hindsight different decisions would surely have been made.
What I find surprising is the small number of charges in relation to the aftermath and the perverting of justice on a large scale. Nothing could change what had happened after the event but the truth should have come out at the time.
Firstly, were there ticketless fans at the game or trying to get to the game. Almost certainly yes. Anyone that went to football would know that people went without tickets. If they didn't, to whom would the touts be selling tickets too? Every big game would have touts so why would the semi final of the FA Cup be any different.
Secondly, and more relevantly, did the presence of ticketless fans contribute to the disaster. The conclusion of the inquest is that they didn't.
There was a myriad of circumstances that contributed to what happened. Decisions by the Police, both on the day and in the build up, previous behaviour of fans (from many clubs) that led to erection of cages, the design of the stadium, lack of available medics and the delay in recognizing what was actually happening as it unfolded etc etc. As HB & B pointed out, in the build up the Police seemed to ignore past practice which seemed to have been effective but not sure anyone believes this was done with 'malice' towards football supporters. With the benefit of hindsight different decisions would surely have been made.
What I find surprising is the small number of charges in relation to the aftermath and the perverting of justice on a large scale. Nothing could change what had happened after the event but the truth should have come out at the time.
What gives you the right to go around policing everyone's posts that you disagree with?
Why don't you apply to be a mod? I think it'd be better than your current method of telling people what they can and can't post and then reporting them to mods.
Pathetic.
I've said my bit on this thread. Extroardinary, however, how certain people, and by and large it is the usual suspects (serial cockwombles), feel that expressing their ignorance, prejudice and nastiness is much more important in taking note of the facts and shutting the **** up. 
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
It isn't policing posts, and do you have proof that he's reported any posts to mods? Aren't you policing his posts, trying to tell him what he can and can't post?
As he pointed out, the facts about Hillsborough are known and decided in a court of law, so the opinion of the poster is irrelevant, in that it isn't a disagreement with TLO, but a disagreement with fact.
Oh Lordy, it's the other self appointed Sherrif of NSC. I shan't dignify yet another of your condescending witterings with an answer. And this thread deserves more than a binfest so I shall respectfully bow out.
AlastairWatts
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Brought my ticket outside the ground about half an hour before kick off. (for the semi final in 1983)
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...inal-charges-norman-bettison?CMP=share_btn_tw
Hillsborough: five men appear in court on criminal charges
Hillsborough: five men appear in court on criminal charges