Gus

[34064 Fighter Command]

Gus...............

has provided this club with it's highest league position at the end of a season since 1991.

That's ONE HELL of an achievement.

I just don't understand some of the fans at this club - it seems that our two MOST SUCCESSFUL managers in recent history, Barry Lloyd, and Gus Poyet, are becoming the most loathed and derided.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Bulgarian international Radostin Kishishev
Spanish international Vicente.
Will Buckley - One of most exciting youngsters
Gordon Greer - 250k
Ashley Barnes - 2nd top scorer in League One championship winning season. Top scorer this year.
Sandaza was a free transfer who grabbed a few VERY important goals on our way to promotion

but yeah, you're right. It's not like any of those players are bargains....

Add Noone as well. kevtherev clearly doesn't deal in facts.

 

[kevtherev]

So calling most people 'brainwashed' (an inference that you're the only one with clarity of thought, and the rest of us are mere sheep) isn't self-centred and insulting?

You deal in irrelevancies, selective facts, and a lack of objectivity.

Believe me, I don't call you ignorant on the back of you disagreeing with most people...

42,000 posts in ten years,thats an average of 12 a day every day for ten years.No wonder you like Poyet so much,you got s lot in common.Both got to much to say for yourselfs and most of it total bollocks.

 

[Hamilton]

O there are definitely people who have a similar view to him....and it seems that on this thread/site if you say something positive about the manager u r a poyet lover and if u criticise then u r a poyet hater...which blurs the argument....but there are those who seem to criticise him almost from a default position week after week

I think you have hit the nail on the head here. The debate is polarised in every thread. we either have Sir Alex Ferguson the 2nd managing us, or Mr Magoo. In my view it is very much in our interests to get behind Gus - not because he is some god-like genius, but because he is taking us in the right direction and at a speed we can't really moan about. However, it would appear that all it takes is a run of bad results and far too many think he is a BHA liability.

 

[BLOCK F]

O there are definitely people who have a similar view to him....and it seems that on this thread/site if you say something positive about the manager u r a poyet lover and if u criticise then u r a poyet hater...which blurs the argument....but there are those who seem to criticise him almost from a default position week after week

Yup,as I said views have become totally entrenched and so yes,there are those who criticise him from almost a default position;but conversely,there are those who believe he is beyond criticism and his actions/words are those of the Almighty!
As always,the truth lies somewhere in the middle!

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

.No wonder you like Poyet so much,you got s lot in common.Both got to much to say for yourselfs and most of it total bollocks.

He's completely lost the plot.

 

[The Large One]

42,000 posts in ten years,thats an average of 12 a day every day for ten years.No wonder you like Poyet so much,you got s lot in common.Both got to much to say for yourselfs and most of it total bollocks.

Like I said - you deal in irrelevancies.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Yup,as I said views have become totally entrenched and so yes,there are those who criticise him from almost a default position;but conversely,there are those who believe he is beyond criticism and his actions/words are those of the Almighty!
As always,the truth lies somewhere in the middle!

o yes...he's by no means perfect ..but as always in life the dissenters seem to make most noise...but hey this is football we are talking about ...and this site isn't unique

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Bridcutt,QUOTE]



I can't believe I forgot Bridcutt! Yet more proof of Kev's ridiculous statement.

 

[GingerBeerMan]

Noone too

A player bought for 450k and was offered 1.2M for a year and a half later. And they say Gus can't make good signings ...

 

[Meade's Ball]

Gus has the magical touch to make the majority believe, and that includes the players under him. Some of those he has giantly improved simply with a combined belief in themselves and in the system that we intend to play of progressive and controlled football. The dream is of course to rid ourselves of the hoof-and-run, panic-stricken football that has been the cause of English football's failure in tournaments for an eternity. That will likely never happen, but what he can do is instil in those around him a wish for a style he himself wished he played more. He won't always get the best from everyone, and that's a shame, but no human has the ability to mould and influence the uninfluenceable.
I've succumbed to his charms, his weird, flesh-eaten face, and his desire to win, and as long as those in charge have, and the majority of fans have faith thanks to the near-miracles that have already occurred, then long may he continue. I don't want to see beyond all he's brung and am not beset by a madness of mind that anyone who replaces him ever will bring so much more to the table. It's been special and remarkable and beautifully memorable, and i thank the lord that partly thanks to what we've had in the past two years i've all of a sudden begun not to doubt, a miracle in itself.

 

[kevtherev]

Bridcutt,QUOTE]



I can't believe I forgot Bridcutt! Yet more proof of Kev's ridiculous statement.

I was talking about players bought for hard cash,not freebies and loans...I will give you Greer,,bargain..But im not having Buckley,,yes I think Buckley is great...but more often than not he is a sub,first one subbed or dropped altogether.How many times has he saved us??..Buckley has been underused big time.

 

[kevtherev]

A player bought for 450k and was offered 1.2M for a year and a half later. And they say Gus can't make good signings ...

Yeah,,,and we didnt sell him,then dont use him and poyet moans about budgets...Id have driven Noone to Cardiff myself for that money and bought a striker.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Yeah,,,and we didnt sell him,then dont use him and poyet moans about budgets...Id have driven Noone to Cardiff myself for that money and bought a striker.

''don't use him'' given that he's been either injured or carrying an injury for most of that time

 

[Jim D]

Bridcutt,QUOTE]



I can't believe I forgot Bridcutt! Yet more proof of Kev's ridiculous statement.

Has anyone mentioned Calderon? Also, I was impressed with the way that Gus played his 'move' to Southampton - probably saved us loads in salary by not diving in and competing with them.

 

[El Presidente]

I was talking about players bought for hard cash,not freebies and loans...I will give you Greer,,bargain..But im not having Buckley,,yes I think Buckley is great...but more often than not he is a sub,first one subbed or dropped altogether.How many times has he saved us??..Buckley has been underused big time.

He has been injured a lot.

 

[kevtherev]

Hoskins?,,, ,why loan out a striker when we only have two others in first team squad..not including no goals Toby or on loan Vokes....who would like to explain the sense in this?

 

[El Presidente]

Yeah,,,and we didnt sell him,then dont use him and poyet moans about budgets...Id have driven Noone to Cardiff myself for that money and bought a striker.

Perhaps Gus' thinking at the time was that it would be foolish to sell him to one of our play-off rivals?

Whilst he is prone to hissy fits, perhaps he could see beyond your kneejerk approach to Cardiff's offer?

 

[kevtherev]

He has been injured a lot.

Has he....really??....Stephenson, Hoskins, Buckley,,,,whats the link??

 

[El Presidente]

Hoskins?,,, ,why loan out a striker when we only have two others in first team squad..not including no goals Toby or on loan Vokes....who would like to explain the sense in this?

Why exclude Vokes? And you are of course conveniently forgetting Buckley whose preferred position is up front. The fact that Hoskins is warming the bench for a team a division lower than us suggests that perhaps Gus might have got this one right, but don't let facts get in the way of your blinkered venom.