Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
And men don’t speak up but just excuse it! Saying it happens all the time is excusing it.
Women have had this battle for all of their lifetimes.
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Women have had this battle for all of their lifetimes.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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Maybe three more of his ex-wives will come forward
I had to hear/adjudicate on one case of senior female offender v junior male complainant - when I walked through my findings and recommendation with the offender’s very senior (male, obviously) boss his first reaction was to grin and suggest the complainant was ‘lucky‘ because she was ‘fit and gagging for it‘ so ‘there’s surely no case against her’
Greg Bobkin
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How's that working out for you, given the latest allegations?
I don't really appreciate the sexist generalisation. I've had inappropriate comments from women colleagues (such as 'while you're down there'). I've not been personally offended, so I've not reported them. I certainly wouldn't try and excuse a man making similar comments, and would back up a victim if required.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Why haven’t you reported them? Another man may suffer because of it.
I presume you haven't worded that quite right. I trust there are some things a person could do which you would think are worthy of losing ones job?
A few reasons. For example: I do not believe other men will suffer. They didn't mean for me to hear their comment, and were horrified and apologetic when they realised I had. I don't feel that they objectify me or others, and believe they were just trying to make a 'funny comment' to a friend.
Each situation is different. I do not make comments like that at work, but I believe there are some cases where work colleagues who are friends can have genuine banter with no one offended. Obviously lines get crossed and I support anyone making a complaint when that happens.
The Clamp
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The most depressing thing about all this is just how long it takes for these reports to be taken seriously.
12 years ago a complaint was made about him.
12 years ago a complaint was made about him.
sussex_guy2k2
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It’s all about knowing your audience.
Are they the lyrics to his next single? Doesn't seem quite as catchy as "Maggie May" but maybe with a little more work it could be as big a hit as "Sailing"
Some guys have all the luck ?
It's also a shame that victims don't think it's worth reporting offenders until they hear that others have.
aolstudios
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It's a shame that they're scared to be the first
I can actually understand the fear involved if you think you’re the only one, and taking on the TV celebrity (with doubtless an army of lawyers to make your life hell if you put a foot wrong). Once others express the same then it makes it much easier to come forward.
The important thing is that they do come forward, not when.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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Easier said than done when you're a young person just starting out on a career in the entertainment industry. You run the risk of your career being over before it's barely begun. This is the fear the predators are preying on
Doesn’t appear to be the smartest defence
Gregg Wallace hits out at 'handful' of accusers of misconduct
A BBC News investigation revealed a string of allegations of inappropriate sexual comments and inappropriate behaviour against the MasterChef presenter.
www.bbc.co.uk
Greg Bobkin
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Was just about to post the same link with an 'Oh mateDoesn’t appear to be the smartest defence
Gregg Wallace hits out at 'handful' of accusers of misconduct
A BBC News investigation revealed a string of allegations of inappropriate sexual comments and inappropriate behaviour against the MasterChef presenter.www.bbc.co.uk
' type comment.What an absolute stroker but, given what's gone before, not in the least surprising...
There has been, so far as I've seen, a lot of suggestion of sexual jokes, innuendo etc. Would help the discussion if those complaining actually identified what was said.to allow people to judge for themselves.