[Albion] Graham Potter - post match last night...

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SCassidy

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Thousands losing loved ones due to Covid, Hospital workers being run ragged with huge personal risks and Loads in retail and hospitality have been fired and cant buy food or pay the rent, and poor old Potter is on what 20-30k per week with 5 years still to run, how awful.

Must be really tough.

Potter bashers calling for perspective. How ironic.
 


peterward

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Stress is stress, no matter what the cause. Yes, the consequence of him leaving his job would be different, but belittling someone with stress just makes you a bit of dick, and shows your complete lack of understanding of stress.

Oh really..... and you can prove he was stressed can you? or are you making up stuff or taking a wild punt and building a narrative around it? Speak to Graham today did you? I thought not.

Like I said before, it could be nothing at all, it could be a row with his Mrs, everyone is making stuff up based on no real evidence and even if it is stress due to one game of football, I doubt its got anything to do with the loss of his parents a year ago (as was mentioned) he's been in decent form before today, and when you break it down, a draw or results in football are not something to get so stressed about in the grand scheme of life and the present realities.

fwiw, my complete lack of understanding of stress in your fantasy mind is actually an instructor in my profession who teaches stress, in human factors training, and its affects, who understands the arousal curve/inverted U - and the negative effects of stress, and lives with it very very often at work where there is no escape and no way to remove yourself from the stressor in the moment. I would hazard a guess I encounter much more stress at work than drawing a football match. Stress is natural is actually healthy up to a certain point, it increases performance. Beyond that it causes deterioration and degrades performance/wellbeing.

This is nothing more than Brighton fans building a mountain out of mole hill based on one interview that looks pretty normal and even if he is a bit off form there are plenty of other plausible reasons....... Its not having a lack of empathy for someone with mental illness or someone who is genuinely stressed (of which there is zero proof in Potters case), its tamping down the nonsense on here and putting it in the context of others encountering real stresses in life.

If Potter was genuinely stressed due to work, I'm sure he'd get support, the worse that could happen from PL manager performance based workplace stress (if any were real) is he could lose his job...that in and of itself may not be ideal for his CV, but his circumstances should insulate him from much of the stress and suffering that others in similar position would encounter. They would also face challenges of surviving financially, which is the largest verifiable cause of stress...........something I doubt GP or Slavan Bilic would have to be stressed about.

A lot of people have workplace stress, its generally the third largest generic grouping, financial is the largest and relationships the second. so even if it were true and there is nothing to suggest it is, he is insulated from the thing that causes most people to worry.

Thats is not to diminish GP, its to say in the grand scheme (if as as suggested here it is because of team results/performance etc) there are many more people suffering greater challenges and exposed to more stressors.
 


NooBHA

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Guessing the news of Bilic’s sacking has got him nervous.

Prior to the Bilic Sacking I was of the Opinion that there was NO WAY that Brighton would be in the bottom 3 - I am not as confident now. It's not that I think Allardyce is a World Beater or anything but he does know how to target matches to grind out points. And with a good January Transfer window. West Brom could overhaul their Squad.

So although I am still confident. I am not as confident as I was prior to that Managerial Change.
 






Change at Barnham

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He didn't looked stressed at all.

I'm with Swansman on this one. I think there is a bit of undermining going on which is disappointing, for what reason I'm not sure.
But it's all about opinions and there will always be plenty shared on NSC both for and against Potter.
 




Weststander

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Prior to the Bilic Sacking I was of the Opinion that there was NO WAY that Brighton would be in the bottom 3 - I am not as confident now. It's not that I think Allardyce is a World Beater or anything but he does know how to target matches to grind out points. And with a good January Transfer window. West Brom could overhaul their Squad.

So although I am still confident. I am not as confident as I was prior to that Managerial Change.

West Brom must plan to spend, Fat Sam makes that a prerequisite when joining mid season.
 




NooBHA

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Not fooling me. For months you've been pushing the narrative that Potter is some scared weakling while Tony Bloom is too proud to sack him. This is essentially more of the same shit, disguised as something else. The modus operandi of a gossiping teenage girl in the highschool cafeteria.

Thats very '' gossiping-teenage-girl-in-the-highschool-cafeteria IST '' Teenage girls around the world will be outraged.


And there is nothing wrong with the Potter demeanour - so nothing to worry about . It has been the exact same as when he first arrived. Sometimes people over think things these days. They watch all these Programmes on TV about how to read peoples body language and get it wrong - Even the people who claim to be experts only really get things correct ''after the event''

Only the OP himself will know whether he meant anything sinister but I have a feeling he didn't
 


peterward

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West Brom must plan to spend, Fat Sam makes that a prerequisite when joining mid season.

Right now, and as much as Id absolutely love to be wildly wrong. I feel more confident that Allardyce will find a way with the right additions for WBA to avoid the drop than we will as a club. But that's not just Potter, that's the recruitment team and what TB sanctions in the present times.

Would be good to know exactly how the recruitment structure works behind the scenes and how much Potters own recruitment fella, who he had all his previous success with is allowed to take the lead or if hes sidelined more in favour of Ashworth/Winstanley calling the shots??
 






NooBHA

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West Brom must plan to spend, Fat Sam makes that a prerequisite when joining mid season.

I remember several years ago Big Sam telling a few people I know that he wasn't interested in taking a Managerial Role again in his Career.

I think this is the 3rd or 4th job now that he has taken since he made that statement.
 


Weststander

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Right now, and as much as Id absolutely love to be wildly wrong. I feel more confident that Allardyce will find a way with the right additions for WBA to avoid the drop than we will as a club. But that's not just Potter, that's the recruitment team and what TB sanctions in the present times.

Would be good to know exactly how the recruitment structure works behind the scenes and how much Potters own recruitment fella, who he had all his previous success with is allowed to take the lead or if hes sidelined more in favour of Ashworth/Winstanley calling the shots??

I picture no internal politics, they had enough of that at the end of the Poyet era. Instead a collaborative approach, with GP outlining his squad aspirations and having part of the final say. Ashworth/Winstanley and their support team having the time to research, scout and deal with clubs/agents.

Separate from the budget determined by TB, PB and the Finance Director.

If WBA are about to launch a January CP-esque spending spree, as CP did when Allardyce joined, and we don’t, that quite possibly that gives them a big advantage on the pitch in the final months of the season. Nothing we as punters can do about that.
 


Blue3

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Just watched his interview seams much the same as his previous interviews what concerned me more was at the end of the interview he says "we have to fight for every think"
 






PersianNYer15

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Statistically speaking, there’s almost no difference between GP and CH. of course GP’s brand is more fun to watch but I wanted to see this club take a step forward with GP and in the beginning he surely looked to be the guy, but judging off the last year that’s obviously a debatable topic. Not saying he should be sacked right now but it is a conversation that very well may need to be had in the near future if he can’t turn the tides with the group that he has.
 




Kosh

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He didn't looked stressed at all.

I'm with Swansman on this one. I think there is a bit of undermining going on which is disappointing, for what reason I'm not sure.
But it's all about opinions and there will always be plenty shared on NSC both for and against Potter.

If I wanted to say Potter out ermmmm I would. I wouldn’t dress up some ‘clever’ veiled attack as feint praise in order to undermine his credibility and ‘suggest’ he’s not up to it... I genuinely honestly wouldn’t do it... indeed i’m not clever enough... it’s as fanciful an accusation as it is factually incorrect.

If, like my Swedish ‘friend’ you disagree with my opinion re his perceived stress levels - that’s fine... honestly.

I say again I am truly sorry for having a pop at a manager (on the odd occasion) doing his absolute all to win games with the players at his disposal.

I can’t emphasise enough that my OP was genuine in my support of him, especially after seeing the toll I think recent weeks have taken.

I hope people can see, I’m not one to try and be so devious as one or two are suggesting - I’m amazed frankly that anyone would take my op in that spirit?!? It beggars belief.

Strange times, where conspiracy theorists try to derail even a heartfelt and honest piece of opinion.

Hey ho... onward.

Albion
 






Hampster Gull

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Dec 22, 2010
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When we had crowds, I don't remember a single Chris Hughton's Blue and White Army chant, neither for Potter. In my opinion, I don't think the fans have truly connected to a boss - or shown their vocal support - since Poyet. I have no idea why that is, just an observation and opinion.

Potter, like Hyypia, isn't exactly one to fire the crowd with their charisma and passion.

Really? REALLY?

You never heard Chrissie Hewtons Blue n White army chanted? You never went to an away match?
 


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