General Election 2017

[Ernest]

May and her troops ready for Johnny Foreigner

 

[Deleted member 22389]

May and her troops ready for Johnny Foreigner

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My mum is Italian, I voted Leave I shall also be voting Tory because I want a hard Brexit. Credit to May for sticking to her guns. By the way I love Europe and I love Europeans, I just hate that stinking undemocratic organisation called the EU that sits in the middle dictating to everyone what they should do. I could see many years ago the EU will not change for anyone, this is not democracy.

 

[Hastings gull]

My mum is Italian, I voted Leave I shall also be voting Tory because I want a hard Brexit. Credit to May for sticking to her guns. By the way I love Europe and I love Europeans, I just hate that stinking undemocratic organisation called the EU that sits in the middle dictating to everyone what they should do. I could see many years ago the EU will not change for anyone, this is not democracy.

I voted remain, though not out of great enthusiasm. The idea of trade and travel is appealing, but the EU has become so much more than that. Now that the Brexit negotiations have started, this organisation has started to show its true colours and from someone who was happy to be part of it, their antics of the last few weeks have pushed me to the position of "just tell' em to . . Off."

 

[Hastings gull]

UK government plans to silence whistle-blowers

So May wants a government that nobody can see in to check for corruption, yet wants the same government to spy on every aspect of our lives. Dystopian stuff.

Tory voters who think they will only come for those poorer or weaker than them will soon receive their comeuppance. They seem to be forging a system that the wealthy elite want to remove democracy and sell the property of the state.

The arch fantasist is at it again! Where does it say anything about a wealthy elite wanting to remove democracy?

 

[vegster]

Vote for May then and see what happens to you and your families life chances

#strongandstable

This election is genuinely worrying, the Maybot has looked at the world and seen the best way to grab power.........

"The European Commission's negotiating stance has hardened. Threats against Britain have been issued by European politicians and officials.
"All of these acts have been deliberately timed to affect the result of the general election that will take place on 8 June."

The mark of a real despot is to raise an imaginary threat to the country from abroad when in reality the threat is really from within and, indeed often, the incumbent leader see : Putin,Trump, Erdogan.

The trouble is that most of the blue rinsers will believe her.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

I voted remain, though not out of great enthusiasm. The idea of trade and travel is appealing, but the EU has become so much more than that. Now that the Brexit negotiations have started, this organisation has started to show its true colours and from someone who was happy to be part of it, their antics of the last few weeks have pushed me to the position of "just tell' em to . . Off."

It's all about meeting this country half way isn't it, this is what a democracy is all about in my eyes. The EU are really showing their true colours.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

This election is genuinely worrying, the Maybot has looked at the world and seen the best way to grab power.........

"The European Commission's negotiating stance has hardened. Threats against Britain have been issued by European politicians and officials.
"All of these acts have been deliberately timed to affect the result of the general election that will take place on 8 June."

The mark of a real despot is to raise an imaginary threat to the country from abroad when in reality the threat is really from within and, indeed often, the incumbent leader see : Putin,Trump, Erdogan.

The trouble is that most of the blue rinsers will believe her.

She's losing the plot. Does she really think public pronouncements like the one she made today are going to help her get a good deal? Unless this is a Machiavellian plot to walk away without a deal i.e. hard Brexit and then blame the EU?

This is quite a bizarre way to go about negotiations. The UK should be very worried indeed.

 

[Hastings gull]

This election is genuinely worrying, the Maybot has looked at the world and seen the best way to grab power.........

"The European Commission's negotiating stance has hardened. Threats against Britain have been issued by European politicians and officials.
"All of these acts have been deliberately timed to affect the result of the general election that will take place on 8 June."

The mark of a real despot is to raise an imaginary threat to the country from abroad when in reality the threat is really from within and, indeed often, the incumbent leader see : Putin,Trump, Erdogan.

The trouble is that most of the blue rinsers will believe her.[/QUOTE]

Thank goodness we have got you to put those 13 million blue rinsers right.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

She's losing the plot. Does she really think public pronouncements like the one she made today are going to help her get a good deal? Unless this is a Machiavellian plot to walk away without a deal i.e. hard Brexit and then blame the EU?

This is quite a bizarre way to go about negotiations. The UK should be very worried indeed.

Who do I believe?, my Prime Minister or a bunch of faceless EU bureaucrats who have form on turning over democratic results when things don't go their way, I think I will stick with my Prime Minister thank you very much.

 

[ManOfSussex]

She's losing the plot. Does she really think public pronouncements like the one she made today are going to help her get a good deal? Unless this is a Machiavellian plot to walk away without a deal i.e. hard Brexit and then blame the EU?

Either way this is quite a bizarre way to go about negotiations. The UK should be very worried indeed.

David Davis was saying there'd be no megaphone diplomacy this morning - then she goes and does this! You're right on the hard Brexit though - that's exactly what she's doing in my opinion. Then all our problems and all the spending cuts etc, etc can be blamed on The EU and the fact they wouldn't do a deal to Paul Dacre's liking/roll over and do exactly what The Daily Mail wanted and Nigel Farage promised etc.

 

[vegster]

I voted remain, though not out of great enthusiasm. The idea of trade and travel is appealing, but the EU has become so much more than that. Now that the Brexit negotiations have started, this organisation has started to show its true colours and from someone who was happy to be part of it, their antics of the last few weeks have pushed me to the position of "just tell' em to . . Off."

The EU has merely pointed out how complicated leaving will be as May,Davis,Fox and Johnson have not woken up yet to the task ahead, May has just turned this round as a " Threat" as this sit's well with some of the electorate.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Who do I believe?, my Prime Minister or a bunch of faceless EU bureaucrats who have form on turning over democratic results when things don't go their way, I think I will stick with my Prime Minister thank you very much.

It's not necessarily about who's right and who's wrong. It's more about keeping your cool. Whatever you think of the EU they certainly now know how to press May's buttons and rattle the government. And whatever you think of the EU it's them who the UK needs to negotiate with.

All of this from one single leaked account which no one knows is truthful or not. And if it was truthful it merely said the government don't seem to have fully grasped the complexity of Brexit. Hardly a crime. God help the Uk when something serious arises.

 

[vegster]

She's losing the plot. Does she really think public pronouncements like the one she made today are going to help her get a good deal? Unless this is a Machiavellian plot to walk away without a deal i.e. hard Brexit and then blame the EU?

This is quite a bizarre way to go about negotiations. The UK should be very worried indeed.

TBH, I think the UK is f@@ked whatever happens.

 

[pb21]

A new low for May this afternoon, lightweight politics and a million miles from being strong.

A sorry state of affairs all round.

 

[ManOfSussex]

All of this from one single leaked account which no one knows is truthful or not.

Nobody from The EU has disputed it and Amber Rudd went as far as admitting it could be accurate yesterday.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

It's not necessarily about who's right and who's wrong. It's more about keeping your cool. Whatever you think of the EU they certainly now know how to press May's buttons and rattle the government. And whatever you think of the EU it's them who the UK needs to negotiate with.

All of this from one single leaked account which no one knows is truthful or not. And if it was truthful it merely said the government don't seem to have fully grasped the complexity of Brexit. Hardly a crime. God help the Uk when something serious arises.

The government wants to get on with things, hardly a crime either. The EU wants to string things out, they want to make the UK suffer so that other countries don't get the same ideas about leaving, call this democracy, I call it bullying.

 

[Biscuit]

Won't vote Labour. Corbyn's policies are uncosted and his stance on Trident makes him unelectable to him. Also, the idea of Dianne Abbot as Home Secretary is one of the most harrowing thoughts I could imagine.

Wont vote Conservative. I agree with Blair that May is a lightweight and I think her dodging the TV debate is cowardice. Her voting record is poor and I dislike almost all of her party's policies.

Liberal Democrats it is then I guess.. are they anti-Brexit? I'll probably vote for them.

 

[vegster]

It's all about meeting this country half way isn't it, this is what a democracy is all about in my eyes. The EU are really showing their true colours.

I think you should look again at May's pronouncement in front of Downing street today and ask yourself if that sounds like democracy.

 

[studio150]

This election is genuinely worrying, the Maybot has looked at the world and seen the best way to grab power.........

"The European Commission's negotiating stance has hardened. Threats against Britain have been issued by European politicians and officials.
"All of these acts have been deliberately timed to affect the result of the general election that will take place on 8 June."

The mark of a real despot is to raise an imaginary threat to the country from abroad when in reality the threat is really from within and, indeed often, the incumbent leader see : Putin,Trump, Erdogan.

The trouble is that most of the blue rinsers will believe her.

Can't say I've heard any threats. All that has happened is that the EU has set out want they are willing to discuss and agree in the early rounds or negotiation, and that the UK's remaining financial commitments have to be calculated. There is no desire as far as I can see of the EU trying to affect the election result. If they were looking to do so, would they not be getting behind the Lib Dems.

All we have at present is Mrs May doing her best impression of Nigel Farage and Donald Trump, in blaming others and looking to control the press.

Still her actions must be loved by the Tory Eurosceptics and former UKIP supporters.

Remember no deal is better than a bad deal, looks like we will be falling off the cliff sometime soon.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

The government wants to get on with things, hardly a crime either. The EU wants to string things out, they want to make the UK suffer so that other countries don't get the same ideas about leaving, call this democracy, I call it bullying.

1). Holding an election just after you've triggered A50 isnt a sign of a government wanting to get on with things. Quite the opposite.
2) The EU will, and quite rightly, do what it needs to do to ensure the best deal for its members. I would expect the UK to do the same. When Remainers have commented on the result we've been called Remoaners and told "get over it, you lost." If the UK "suffers" from these negotiations may I suggest you stop whinging? get over it? You lost? May has said walking away with no deal is an okay option so bearing this in mind how will you suffer? Please explain.