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Seagull on the wing

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Sep 22, 2010
7,458
Hailsham
Well,if promises are kept...I assume Sir Nibble will keep his and leave the country now it's a Tory win. So sorry I cannot come down to wave you goodbye,so I will wish you here 'Bon Voyage' and have a safe trip...(.although I was told you had already planned the trip regardless of the result)....I couldn't afford that so you haven't don't done too bad under the coalition have you
Anyway,have a terrific time.
:bigwave::bigwave::bigwave::bigwave::bigwave::bigwave::bigwave::bigwave::bigwave::bigwave::bigwave::bigwave::bigwave:.
 






Guinness Boy

Tofu eating wokerati
Helpful Moderator
NSC Patron
Jul 23, 2003
37,341
Up and Coming Sunny Portslade
I wrote my thoughts on this in the middle of the night...

The outspoken intellectual snobbery that comes from some (note: not all) on the left seeks to sneer at those who vote Tory. They try to paint Tory voters as stupid, nasty, selfish and/or meek sheep of billionaire media magnates. Voting Tory is presented as being unfashionable.

Beyond that, those who outwardly display Tory intentions with a board in their garden face the likelihood that it will be removed or damaged and, possibly, receive some vandalism to their property too. At the extreme end of this we saw the Conservative candidate in one of the Bristol constituency receive pretty severe damage to both her car and that of her parents.

Because of this I think that in this election at least we have seen a growing number of Tory voters keeping quiet about their intentions until they were faced with their ballot paper.

It's undoubtedly "cooler" to vote for a left leaning party. If you compare the celebrity cheerleaders for Labour (Steve Coogan's seafront video, visits to Hove and Portslade from Eddie Izzard and Ross Kemp) to the Tories (Gary Barlow, Phil Collins and Katie Hopkins) you could see why people may keep quiet about voting Tory. The thing is I don't think the average British voter likes being told what to do by celebrities when it comes to voting. I certainly don't.
 


Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
Why would you hope for that - you don't seem to agree with (m)any of those policies. If you did, you would have voted Conservative.

I would have thought you'd be hoping that the Conservative's wafer-thin majority means they are highly susceptible to back-bench revolts, are very unstable and Cameron loses the confidence of his party.

Come EU referendum time...
 


KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
21,094
Wolsingham, County Durham
It's undoubtedly "cooler" to vote for a left leaning party. If you compare the celebrity cheerleaders for Labour (Steve Coogan's seafront video, visits to Hove and Portslade from Eddie Izzard and Ross Kemp) to the Tories (Gary Barlow, Phil Collins and Katie Hopkins) you could see why people may keep quiet about voting Tory. The thing is I don't think the average British voter likes being told what to do by celebrities when it comes to voting. I certainly don't.

Has it ever been cool to vote Tory? I am nearly 50 and it certainly wasn't when I was in school in the early 80's. It was much like now - the Labour supporters were very noisy and the Tories were very quiet.
 




Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,144
Goldstone
The thing is I don't think the average British voter likes being told what to do by celebrities when it comes to voting. I certainly don't.
I was going to vote Labour, but voted Tory, because I don't like being told what to do by the Germans.
 




Titanic

Super Moderator
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
39,919
West Sussex
Conservatives reach 323... with 4 Sinn Fein MPs who don't attend the HoC that gives them an effective majority.
 




KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
21,094
Wolsingham, County Durham
The Conservative Party has now reached 323 seats. As BBC presenter Huw Edwards points out - if you discount the Sinn Fein MPs who traditionally do not take their seats in the Commons and the Speaker, who doesn't vote - this effectively secures them a majority.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,144
Goldstone
Sophie, Sophie, Sophie, Sophie
 


simmo

Well-known member
Feb 8, 2008
2,787
It's undoubtedly "cooler" to vote for a left leaning party. If you compare the celebrity cheerleaders for Labour (Steve Coogan's seafront video, visits to Hove and Portslade from Eddie Izzard and Ross Kemp) to the Tories (Gary Barlow, Phil Collins and Katie Hopkins) you could see why people may keep quiet about voting Tory. The thing is I don't think the average British voter likes being told what to do by celebrities when it comes to voting. I certainly don't.

I know what you are saying on an earlier celeb party political broadcast Jo Brand said something along the lines of....and we don't hate the nurses.

I thought about that for a moment and thinks that she (and thereby the Labour Party as it was their broadcast) think that Tories and Tory voters hate nurses......utterly utterly ludicrous and offensive to millions of decent people. That was the message that Labour were putting out. The British people have given them the answer.
 




It's undoubtedly "cooler" to vote for a left leaning party. If you compare the celebrity cheerleaders for Labour (Steve Coogan's seafront video, visits to Hove and Portslade from Eddie Izzard and Ross Kemp) to the Tories (Gary Barlow, Phil Collins and Katie Hopkins) you could see why people may keep quiet about voting Tory. The thing is I don't think the average British voter likes being told what to do by celebrities when it comes to voting. I certainly don't.
Absolutely this!!!, sick of lefty type actors sneering at us. I love the fact that the twitterati and social media puffs were gauging this election from online activities. The BBC fell for it. All the time there was a secret tory vote just waiting to pounce. Seeing that guardian twerp Owen snidey bollocks and kate ' I'm a feminist comedian' smurfit in total shock on tele has made my day. No body is going to listen to the bloggers any more. And don't get me started on Russell rapey Brand. Whoops, now I am sneering!!
 


deletebeepbeepbeep

Well-known member
May 12, 2009
21,794
The Conservative Party has now reached 323 seats. As BBC presenter Huw Edwards points out - if you discount the Sinn Fein MPs who traditionally do not take their seats in the Commons and the Speaker, who doesn't vote - this effectively secures them a majority.

I voted for Caroline Lucas this time around but would usually vote Labour. Personally a continuing Conservative government suits me, my industry has seen huge growth over the last two/three years, that might have happened anyway with an improving economy but I'm sure stability at present will be beneficial. However, I have grave concerns about the level of care being provided for those who need it the most in society, those with mental health issues or other debilitating illnesses and those on the breadline. They are going to be the people worst effected by this election result and unfortunately the people easiest to shuffle away by the Conservatives and ignore. So whilst this result may not be bad for me personally I feel it will be bad for society and the cohesiveness of our communities overall.
 


Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,226
On NSC for over two decades...
Oh indeed, not a good result. As has already been mentioned though I find it utterly disgusting that UKIP and the Greens get nearly 5m votes and get two MPs while the SNP get 1.5m votes and get 56 MPs. The system doesn't represent the votes cast.

Yep, it is way past time that the boundaries were adjusted so that each constituency had the same number of voters in it.
 




Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,144
Goldstone
Can't look at Jim Murphy's face. That forehead crease is just too weird.
 


I voted for Caroline Lucas this time around but would usually vote Labour. Personally a continuing Conservative government suits me, my industry has seen huge growth over the last two/three years, that might have happened anyway with an improving economy but I'm sure stability at present will be beneficial. However, I have grave concerns about the level of care being provided for those who need it the most in society, those with mental health issues or other debilitating illnesses and those on the breadline. They are going to be the people worst effected by this election result and unfortunately the people easiest to shuffle away by the Conservatives and ignore. So whilst this result may not be bad for me personally I feel it will be bad for society and the cohesiveness of our communities overall.
I think you will get a different tory party now. I do genuinely believe Cameron has a heart somewhere. He now is a majority leader which will give him a bit more leeway with his backstabbers in his own troop who looked at him as a bit of a lame duck.
 


Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,361
Worthing
I wrote my thoughts on this in the middle of the night...

The outspoken intellectual snobbery that comes from some (note: not all) on the left seeks to sneer at those who vote Tory. They try to paint Tory voters as stupid, nasty, selfish and/or meek sheep of billionaire media magnates. Voting Tory is presented as being unfashionable.

Beyond that, those who outwardly display Tory intentions with a board in their garden face the likelihood that it will be removed or damaged and, possibly, receive some vandalism to their property too. At the extreme end of this we saw the Conservative candidate in one of the Bristol constituency receive pretty severe damage to both her car and that of her parents.

Because of this I think that in this election at least we have seen a growing number of Tory voters keeping quiet about their intentions until they were faced with their ballot paper.

Totally and completely agree.

The demonisation of the Torys and the their supporters has been a growing trend in recent years. As you say, they are 'evil' or 'selfish' or ' self seving' and happy to see the NHS / Education system etc destroyed.

Over the past few weeks I've driven through Lewes and the surrounding areas recently and the were very few Tory boards on display, either due to shyness or removal. I did see some of the Tory placards that had been graffitied, and also some 'fake' Tory ones in Lewes (junction by the prison) that were just as hysterically in their pantomime views.

If I were a Tory supporter in Lewes, and I wasn't sure whether I could be bothered to vote, seeing this demonisation, vandalism would galvanise me to vote.

There IS a pseudo intellectual snobbery in the UK, where it is seen as intelligent to be left wing or left of centre, whilst right of centre is for stupid / gullible people.

Let's face it - whichever party we got last night the outcomes would be in many respects broadly similar - there are of course key differences, but no party is going to knowingly dismantle the NHS or the welfare state - that's all hyperbole. The likely narrow majority is also likely to keep the more extreme elements in the Conservatives at bay (if there are any that haven't left for UKIP anyway).
 


simmo

Well-known member
Feb 8, 2008
2,787
Totally and completely agree.


There IS a pseudo intellectual snobbery in the UK, where it is seen as intelligent to be left wing or left of centre, whilst right of centre is for stupid / gullible people.

100% agree with this.I have seen many posts on here that back this up. The intellectual superiority that some on the left think they have is one of the main problems they (the left) have.

Today some will be saying to themselves...how could the British People vote for the wrong party? When they should be saying why are our policies not reaching out to Joe Public.

The silent majority spoke last night.
 




Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
There IS a pseudo intellectual snobbery in the UK, where it is seen as intelligent to be left wing or left of centre, whilst right of centre is for stupid / gullible people.

So, so true and can be found by the bucket-load on NSC even today. Well, the joke's on them...again. And it will continue to be so until they realise that they aren't any cleverer than people with different views neither do they have any claim of moral superiority. Tories and socialists both want the same things - a fair and prosperous society - we just have different views on how to achieve that.
 


Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,361
Worthing
100% agree with this.I have seen many posts on here that back this up. The intellectual superiority that some on the left think they have is one of the main problems they (the left) have.

Today some will be saying to themselves...how could the British People vote for the wrong party? When they should be saying why are our policies not reaching out to Joe Public.

The silent majority spoke last night.

It's alomost as if democracy only works if it returns the result someone expects / wants. Otherwise it's (delete as applicable)

A dirty campaign
Cheating
A Press conspiracy
Gullible people
Stupid people

It's never down to the people / policies of their chosen party. This would equally apply to an extet whichever way the result went, but it's far more prevelant when you get THIS outcome.
 


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