General Election 2015

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Just like PC asking for the same amount of funding for supporting a Labour Government? Although they are likely to only get as many seats as UKIP .

Its called horse trading , Labour would end up spending more and not reduce the deficit as quickly as they wanted to , Conservatives would make more savage cuts than planned so additional funding was broadly neutral.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Er, no. If they win 1 seat they are going to be as influential on government policy as the Greens are.

UKIP are currently predicted to win 4 or 5 seats with a 11% share but as they say a week is a long time in politics.

 

[Ernest]

Economic growth slows to 0.3% continuing a 6 month slowdown, not such good news for the long term economic plan

 

[daveinprague]

UKIP are currently predicted to win 4 or 5 seats with a 11% share but as they say a week is a long time in politics.

Who on earth is predicting 4 or 5 seats? They will be doing well if they retain one (Carswells) seat imo

 

[Simster]

UKIP are currently predicted to win 4 or 5 seats with a 11% share but as they say a week is a long time in politics.

So with 5 seats, what makes you think UKIP will get an early referendum then? I should hope they get nothing of the sort if they only get that level of support.

 

[Simster]

Who on earth is predicting 4 or 5 seats? They will be doing well if they retain one (Carswells) seat imo

Nobody is predicting 5 seats. SoG is making it up.

http://may2015.com/category/seat-calculator/

 

[daveinprague]

Nobody is predicting 5 seats. SoG is making it up.

http://may2015.com/category/seat-calculator/

Ok...
oh, any truth in the UKIP flyer for Brighton Pavillion
If its true, and they cannot manage to spell the name of the seat they are campaigning on, it would be pretty funny

Although the question is...who will they blame...as it wont be them naturally

 

[peterward]

Its only a prediction of what they think the outcome will be based on all the polls which change on a daily basis. Its all down to who wins the scaremongering campaign , the voters have a choice of Labour and Sturgeon or Conservatives and Farage.

But they don't, Farage with 12-14% of electorate will get less than 5 seats. SNP with 4% of electorate will get 50 seats. UKIP won't be a kingmaker that is scaremongering. SNP will definitely be kingmaker to Labour and third largest party.in Westminster... Even though 6th in support behind Labour's, cons, UKIP, LDs and greens in popular vote. If labour finish second not only will it be a coalition of chaos but also a coalition of losers.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

But they don't, Farage with 12-14% of electorate will get less than 5 seats. SNP with 4% of electorate will get 50 seats. UKIP won't be a kingmaker that is scaremongering. SNP will definitely be kingmaker to Labour and third largest party.in Westminster... Even though 6th in support behind Labour's, cons, UKIP, LDs and greens in popular vote. If labour finish second not only will it be a coalition of chaos but also a coalition of losers.

If a party can engender the confidence to deliver a government to the Queen how will it be a "coalition of chaos"?

 

[Ernest]

Cameron has stated his financial promises like 8% for the NHS will come out of future growth, todays figures put that idea to the sword

 

[Triggaaar]

If a party can engender the confidence to deliver a government to the Queen how will it be a "coalition of chaos"?

You seriously don't understand the point he was making? If the parties with the 2nd and 3rd most votes, with wildly different policies, join forces to form a government, or course it could be a coalition of chaos. What's that got to do with going to the queen, she's not going to say no is she.

 

[Triggaaar]

Cameron has stated his financial promises like 8% for the NHS will come out of future growth, todays figures put that idea to the sword

Hardly: "The ONS said the economy was 2.4% larger than the same period a year earlier, meaning it remains the fastest growing economy in the G7."

 

[ROSM]

You seriously don't understand the point he was making? If the parties with the 2nd and 3rd most votes, with wildly different policies, join forces to form a government, or course it could be a coalition of chaos. What's that got to do with going to the queen, she's not going to say no is she.

So UK parliament 101 is needed. To be prime minister, an individual has to be able to demonstrate the can a) pass a queens speech through parliament and b) have a budget approved

If thay takes a conglomeration of partners with a common view point then that's called order, not chaos. It's far better than relying on a single biggest party who cannot command a majority due to the wishes of the people not electing enough same minded individuals

 

[Triggaaar]

To be prime minister, an individual has to be able to demonstrate the can a) pass a queens speech through parliament and b) have a budget approved

If thay takes a conglomeration of partners with a common view point then that's called order, not chaos.

And what if they don't have a common view point?

 

[Simster]

But they don't, Farage with 12-14% of electorate will get less than 5 seats. SNP with 4% of electorate will get 50 seats. UKIP won't be a kingmaker that is scaremongering. SNP will definitely be kingmaker to Labour and third largest party.in Westminster... Even though 6th in support behind Labour's, cons, UKIP, LDs and greens in popular vote. If labour finish second not only will it be a coalition of chaos but also a coalition of losers.

What does "coalition of losers" even mean? I'll tell you - it means that more anti-Tory seats than pro-Tory seats have been elected to power. Sorry if this doesn't quite fit with your agenda.

 

[Simster]

And what if they don't have a common view point?

Then obviously they can't form a government. To be fair ROSM has been pretty clear with his explanation.

 

[ROSM]

And what if they don't have a common view point?

Then the budget and Queens speech need to reflect what can achieve that support.

As the parties lie at the moment, you have tory, ukip and unionists on one side

You have labour, snp, green and pc on the other plus perhaps sdlp. As sinn fein don't attend then you could discount them.

So lib dems could go either way and may not be required at all

But to be clear, we know lib dems and snp don't like trident, but enough labour and tories do so that could pass. We know snp want another referendum but thay enough tories and labour don't.

The key areas for agreement there fore need to be on economic grounds and that is where the split I mentioned would be most accurate.

Let's be clear, with lib dems saying eeducationis their red line, that's more a labour policy than a Tory one.

 

[Triggaaar]

Then obviously they can't form a government.

Unfortunately it's possible for parties to form a government even if they don't have a common view point. The desire for power and being PM could drive a leader of one of the main parties to agree to things that he/she knows their core support wouldn't like.

 

[ROSM]

Unfortunately it's possible for parties to form a government even if they don't have a common view point. The desire for power and being PM could drive a leader of one of the main parties to agree to things that he/she knows their core support wouldn't like.

A la Nick Clegg?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

You seriously don't understand the point he was making? If the parties with the 2nd and 3rd most votes, with wildly different policies, join forces to form a government, or course it could be a coalition of chaos. What's that got to do with going to the queen, she's not going to say no is she.

And you clearly don't understand how government works.