[Football] Football Governance Bill / Independent Football Regulator

[Eeyore]

Of course, the elephant in the room is the reason why clubs charge so much is because there are players sitting on benches being paid potentially millions of pounds a year.

 

[jcdenton08]

Of course, the elephant in the room is the reason why clubs charge so much is because there are players sitting on benches being paid potentially millions of pounds a year.

Or in our case, on physio benches.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Bed time for me; im tired. Personally, in principle, I’m all for it.

 

[studio150]

It’s not just pensioners though, when I was of the correct age, there seemed to be a lot more student/under 21 tickets around, at Villa I believe it was the same price as adult.

Totally agree and that is the issue at Utd with their match day price hike.

It seems that since Covid many industries are looking at ways to increase income and reducing concessions on the margins.

 

[ROSM]

I know parachute payments are mentioned in this article but I can't see anywhere in the draft bill that mentions these.

I also think a dullard on social media is highlighting that it was the unilateral going back on a deal with efl by prem teams that gave the regulator concept more impetus

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

It won’t be anything like ‘free’ though…….guaranteed it’ll end up like pretty much every other regulatory body - expensive, bloated, inefficient and (seen as) interfering. There’ll be tons of reporting for the clubs to do, scrutiny, inspections and the like. Every time there is a significant issue every club will get a load of work to do, even if they’re not ‘guilty’ because a) they‘ll have to check and report back and b) a load of new controls will get mandated (with associated expenses)

It’s an awkward one…….because football has proven enough times that it can’t effectively self-regulate. I can see where PB is coming from because he thinks we get absolutely everything right (even when we don’t)

There speaks a man who has worked in financial services!

 

[dazzer6666]

I agree to a certain extent, but this comment puzzled me a bit:
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Are we really using costs to fans, the academy and our commitment to the women’s game as a bargaining chip in this. I won’t be disingenuous because I don’t think this is what is meant, but to me, it comes across in a way that says: “We don’t want a regulator, but you do, so if you want it, you’ll have to pay for it.” I don’t particularly think with the money available in Men’s football the two options if we have to fund a regulator should be, cut the academy and women’s team or increase ticket prices. That’s very simple way of looking at it, as a football club I’d like to see us look at different ways to fund it that doesn’t involve punishing the fans, rather than this narrow approach. The FSA, all political parties and I’d say most fans, there has to be a more constructive option than those two options. I think his words on rail companies honouring tickets is good, but the way you get that sort of regulation is through a regulator, people want football at 3pm, it would be better the games not moved and that’s the choice of the league (which comes under a regulator).

Completely agree.

 

[Eeyore]

On another note, it does hearten me greatly to see the reactions of so many folk on here who are comfortable in setting glory seeking egos aside to evaluate the truth about what is happening in the game in a rational manner. I've always thought of Albion fans as a different breed in general. To quote the old proverb 'Never forget the rock from which you were hewn' We certainly don't.

 

[dazzer6666]

There speaks a man who has worked in financial services!

In compliance…….dealing with regulators……and since retiring, in education and social care (on a voluntary basis) where they are seemingly even less competent

 

[Bozza]

I can see why Tony Bloom, who largely does things right, and has invested his personal fortune of £500M+ doesn’t want a regulator involved , and I’d be the same I think.

But for the good of the game , especially with greedy players and agents it’s a good idea in theory, but not convinced it’ll be put into practice well

Yeah, that's a good summary of the situation.

Do I think Brighton & Hove Albion need a regulator watching over the club's shoulder making sure they act with best intentions at all times? No, no I don't.

Do I think the football industry needs a regulator watching over clubs' shoulders making sure all involved act with best intention at all times?
Yes, yes I do.

 

[maffew]

So why are you not shouting for a regulator of the West End Theatres where top price seats can now be £300 or more with no concessions for pensioners.

Totally different product, that's a bit like comparing champagne to a can of beer

 

[Bozza]

I don't have a season ticket and haven't been for some time due to health issues. I have often looked at matches and thought about attending. But I would need to go where you don't have to stand, so the North Stand is out. With that in mind, the cheapest price for Everton is £46. It's certainly not something I would be contemplating very often in the sense that it's a luxury treat as opposed to something I would do semi-regularly anyway. Sometimes I look at the folk at games on the television and wonder how they afford it.

If I didn't have a season ticket - and I only do because of the monthly payment plan - I wouldn't make it to many games at all for the reason you state.

I know I'd look at the cost of a single match ticket, even in the "cheap seats" for a non-glamour fixture, and think "Shit, that's a lot. I could spend that money far better on <insert something else here>"

 

[Cotton Socks]

So why are you not shouting for a regulator of the West End Theatres where top price seats can now be £300 or more with no concessions for pensioners.

There are only a certain amount of times you can see The Lion King as the ending is always the same.

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

In compliance…….dealing with regulators……and since retiring, in education and social care (on a voluntary basis) where they are seemingly even less competent

Speaking as someone who works in financial services AND football, this whole football regulator conversation send shivers down my spine!

As our favourite Uruguayan would say, ees complicated. I think we can all agree something needs to be done - I for one passionately feel fans, including fans of BHAFC, are taken advantage of for our loyalty and love for our clubs and we pay far too much money across the board for tickets, travel, kits, merchandise and TV subscriptions. A large percentage of fans are priced out of the game. But I’m also very wary of regulators and people/politicians who know nothing about the game on a grass root or high business level making decisions that drastically effect the game. Even those who in the past may have been in touch, quickly lose that when put in positions of power.

My experience of dealing with the FCA and football administrators fills me with no confidence about a new regulator but I also don’t have the brain capacity to know what the answer is.

What I do know is that, unusually, Barber does not come across well here.

 

[Bozza]

There are only a certain amount of times you can see The Lion King as the ending is always the same.

You've just described Brighton playing at home to a relegation-threatened side.

Only the Lion King has a happy ending.

 

[um bongo molongo]

Does football need a regulator? Yes

Do I have any faith in this country’s ability to build and deliver one that is effective, not overly burdened by bureaucracy, and value for money? No

 

[Cotton Socks]

You've just described Brighton playing at home to a relegation-threatened side.

Only the Lion King has a happy ending.

Yep, I thought that as soon as I pressed post! I've spent years telling my kids don't expect to win against #teamslikebrighton yet they still strop!

 

[Bry Nylon]

I know I'd look at the cost of a single match ticket, even in the "cheap seats" for a non-glamour fixture, and think "Shit, that's a lot. I could spend that money far better on <insert something else here>"

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[BadFish]

Of course, the elephant in the room is the reason why clubs charge so much is because there are players sitting on benches being paid potentially millions of pounds a year.

This is option number 3 that football doesn't want to address. Surely an agreement between club to lower the wages of players is the more sensible and sustainable answer to many/most of football's financial ills.

 

[Weststander]

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