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Finance a striker



Biscuit

Native Creative
Jul 8, 2003
22,363
Brighton
I can't afford one season ticket let along another!

Working every hour god gives to buy one next year, but won't raise the cash in time so will have to buy it later and incure the rise. :(
 




Biscuit

Native Creative
Jul 8, 2003
22,363
Brighton
BensGrandad said:
I do not know enough about computers but if as it appears that someboy has logged in as me. How do they know my password?
LB I would be grateful if you could E Mail me with details of how I can tighten up the security or anybody else who knows how to do it.

ISP I can assure anybody100% that it wasn't posted by myself or anybody on my PC.

On the issue of buying tickets I inadvertently forgot to take in to account that all of the 10 games are not at home however I am still prepared to pay that same amount for 2 tickets that I will give to a young person who will be a supporter of the future. I will not shirk my responsibility and commitment.

This is not some high brained scheme to gain me recognition or similar but an effort to do my little bit towards bringing in a striker to help us stay up.

The whole crux of the matter is that if we sold out every seat we would gain sufficient extra income to be able to afford the wages of this striker and to assist this aim I will buy an extra 2 tickets but it is not worth me doing my bit if the club do not sign a striker and other supporters do not guarantee to buy the extra tickets.

Are you calling Bracknell a lyer?

Whoever posted this thread was on the same computer (or network) as the person who posted that thread on Ask the Club. If the ISP is the same, then that is a scientific FACT.
 


Don't worry, Biscuit.

BensGrandad and I are engaged in civilised conversation on this, via e-mails and PMs.

It won't stop us disagreeing on the ticket scheme issue, but I'm not getting the feeling that either of us are calling the other names.
 


dwayne

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
16,759
London
Biscuit said:
Are you calling Bracknell a lyer?

Whoever posted this thread was on the same computer (or network) as the person who posted that thread on Ask the Club. If the ISP is the same, then that is a scientific FACT.

what is a scientific fact?
 


BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
Dover said:
BensGrandad. Am I right in the assumption, that we could all buy an extra ticket. If so I for one would think that not only the Inland Revenue could be interested, but also the football authorities.

Apart from the tax burden and VAT the club would incur, there must be some break of contract law.

What may be simpler is for a wealthy business person to give a one off gift to the club, so Dick and Martin can spend it in the correct manner. And forgive me in stating the bleeding obvious, but I have not heard of any of those dipping their hands in their voluptuous pockets.


I am lost how does this infringe any laws if I phone the club and ask can I have 2 tickets for the game against PNE and also 2 for every home game until the end of season.
 




shingle

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2004
3,278
Lewes
Why is everybody getting on at BG, it reminds me of the school playground, who wants to play gangs on to Ben.

All a bit pathetic really, to rubbish a fan who has the temerity to suggest a possible way out of our 'striker problem'

Slag him off as much as you want, but he's heart is in the right place. These are desperate times and somethings got to be done sooner rather than later, maybe even something a bit 'hairbrained'
 


Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
shingle said:
Why is everybody getting on at BG, it reminds me of the school playground, who wants to play gangs on to Ben.

All a bit pathetic really, to rubbish a fan who has the temerity to suggest a possible way out of our 'striker problem'

Slag him off as much as you want, but he's heart is in the right place. These are desperate times and somethings got to be done sooner rather than later, maybe even something a bit 'hairbrained'

Maybe you should read some of his archive stuff.
Like 'What happened to the Playoff money'.
and how he was going to do a deal with Stanley (or something like that)
 


Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,561
Living In a Box
And the football ground at Upper Beeding
 




Jim in the West

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 13, 2003
5,081
Way out West
Most of what BG says on here is, in my opinion, total crap....but I don't think it's great to pour scorn on his idea....it may not add up, but as well as goals, we need as many ideas as possible at the mo. If we all slag off new ideas then the genuine money-making scheme may not ever appear.
 


shingle

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2004
3,278
Lewes
Yorkie said:
Maybe you should read some of his archive stuff.
Like 'What happened to the Playoff money'.
and how he was going to do a deal with Stanley (or something like that)



Maybe, but none of that matters now Yorkie, its all in the past,

I may be stating the obvious, but all we should be focussing on now is overcoming LDC and staying in this division as I believe a step down to Div 1 would be a disaster. (look at the 3 teams that went down last season) Revenues would drop and the club would be in an even more precarious position than it is now.

So anything credible, suggested by anyone, to help us stay in this division is to be welcomed
 


Black N Tan

New member
Jan 28, 2006
100
West London
Being a new boy I don't know the history of BG, however, with much of what I have read recently the general opinion across the board is DK and MP have done a great job ensuring the survival of the club but do not have a pot to piss in to take the club into a successful future. Therefore, rather then riducle someone with a suggestion to help the club, shouldn't others look at supporting positive ideas.
 




BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
Yorkie said:
Maybe you should read some of his archive stuff.
Like 'What happened to the Playoff money'.
and how he was going to do a deal with Stanley (or something like that)

If you are going to continually quote me get it right.

Play Off money came from a worried person within the club who asked me to ask the question but that matter is now closed I will not answer any more questions on it.

The consortium that I was involved with had nothing whatsoever to do with anybody who was at the club then or since. Again matter now closed.

Beeding cement works was agreed and all but signed by both the consortium that I was involved with and BA. Ask Harty and he will tell you as he often does that Barry Lloyd nearly punched BA on the nose because he wouldn't sign the document to secure Beeding. Irrespective of what others tell you the deal was done and settled only needed a signature but again that is now a closed item.

My idea was to raise more revenue for the club so that they could afford the extra wages for a striker of proven ability rather than one for the future or an unknown. I didn't think that if the begging bowl went out again like A & K and 40 note fund anybody would contribute and complain about the club begging again. The NIMBYs would have got hold of it and used it to say the club was broke no need for Falmer.

I offered to buy a ticket which I would have given to somebody who would otherwise not have bought one thus giving the club more revenue as it appears I forgot to take into account away games so I would have to buy 2 tickets per game, so be it, I can afford that but I havent got £50k to give the club to pay a players wages. If another 250 people followed suit or 500 new people bought a ticket for each game the problem would be solved.

If my idea to help my club offended anybody I apologise most profusely.
 
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gripper stebson

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
6,701
BensGrandad said:
I have said on another thread that we need 220 people extra to buy a ticket to pay the wages of a proven goalscorer = £5k per week'

I will pledge to buy an extra ticket over and above my season ticket, which I have, for all of the remaining homes games to either use, give away, or even throw away to help finance bringing in a striker. I will send the money to the club later on in the week and every week thereafter or in 1 lump sum which ever they want provided.

1. The money is used solely for the paying of wages for a proven goalscorer not one for the future and no other purpose than for this striker.
2. 250 other people do likewise .

No.
 




Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
Charlies Shinpad said:
I applaud your initiative BG.

I wish people would stop slagging you off and just put a bit of serious thought into your suggestion.

Would the fact that he is a friend of Greg Stanley change your opinion?
 


Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
Jim in the West said:
Most of what BG says on here is, in my opinion, total crap....but I don't think it's great to pour scorn on his idea....it may not add up, but as well as goals, we need as many ideas as possible at the mo. If we all slag off new ideas then the genuine money-making scheme may not ever appear.

The only scorn that was poured on it was because it didn't add up. Read Lord Bracknells comments. Home games didnt correspond to weeks left in the season.
 




BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
Yorkie said:
Would the fact that he is a friend of Greg Stanley change your opinion?

H,ow many times do I have to tell you and your like,my company did some work for Greg Stanley and at the time we were on civilised talking levels obviously, but I fell out with him over BHA and did as much as anybody to help rid the club of him BA & DB.

Rather than slag me off try reading my post properly and realise what I am trying to do that even people like you will benefit next season.

I accept, and have said that I inadvertently did not take into account the fact that there are 5 away games in the 10 so it would need for either 250 people to buy 2 extra tickets each or 500 people to buy 1 to raise the same money.

What are you doing or going to do to help solve our problem?
 
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BensGrandad said:
I am lost how does this infringe any laws if I phone the club and ask can I have 2 tickets for the game against PNE and also 2 for every home game until the end of season.
It doesn't infringe any laws.

However ...

If the price of the ticket is £22.50, only £19.15 is kept by the Club. The rest is VAT.

To raise £50,000, it will be necessary to sell an extra 522 tickets at each of the remaining five home games.

Bearing in mind that a proportion of the empty seats at Withdean have already been paid for by season ticket holders who don't turn up, I doubt if there are 522 unsold tickets available in the home areas for each game.

Even allowing for the idea being a good one, in my opinion it simply won't deliver the money. My main objection is that it carries the risk that the Club will commit funds on the basis of what could easily be empty promises by supporters to stump up money in the future.

If the ploy doesn't work, and we have been relegated by Easter, is it credible that people will still be willing to dip into their pockets and buy extra tickets for the Sheffield Wednesday and Stoke games?
 


BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
Lord Bracknell said:
It doesn't infringe any laws.

However ...

Even allowing for the idea being a good one, in my opinion it simply won't deliver the money. My main objection is that it carries the risk that the Club will commit funds on the basis of what could easily be empty promises by supporters to stump up money in the future.

If the ploy doesn't work, and we have been relegated by Easter, is it credible that people will still be willing to dip into their pockets and buy extra tickets for the Sheffield Wednesday and Stoke games?

If we signed a proven goalscorer tomorrow on £10k per week the total outlay to the club would be £100k approx, (haven't counted the no of weeks).

Any extra seats sold would reduce the amount that the club have to pay and soften the blow if we did get relegated as you say by Easter. Even if only reduced it by £30k where are we going to get £30k from.

The problem as I see it, and I may well be wrong, is that we had the money for a permanent transfer whether it be by instalments or whatever plus that players wages but don't appear to have it to spend on wages for a proven goalscorer.

The clubs debts are between 7 - 9 million, allegedly, the exact firgure will not be known until the balance sheets and trading figures are lodged so another £70K is neither here nor there the problem appears to be cash flow. They cannot get the money to pay the wages of this proven striker, or this is how it appears. so my idea will help if not completely cover the increased spending.
 


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