Uncle Spielberg
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I thought Bi Centenial Man was very good and as you say moving. It got slated by the critics for some reason.
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Films that make you cry
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Not actually crying but films that brought a lump to my throat:
Sadness
Field of Dreams. (Can't really explain why)
The mother dying towards the end of "Terms of Endearment" (my wife blubbed so much, you could still tell the following morning!)
Schindlers List
Laughter
Dumb and Dumber
Something about Mary
The Life of Brian
Sadness
Field of Dreams. (Can't really explain why)
The mother dying towards the end of "Terms of Endearment" (my wife blubbed so much, you could still tell the following morning!)
Schindlers List
Laughter
Dumb and Dumber
Something about Mary
The Life of Brian
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Big - strange one really. When he goes back to his 'hood as an adult and sees the other kids playing and realises what he is missing out on.
Watership down - when the rabbit gets run over by a car. One from my childhood there.
Schindlers List - as many have said.
Watership down - when the rabbit gets run over by a car. One from my childhood there.
Schindlers List - as many have said.
hart's shirt
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I watched 'Shrek' a couple of days ago for the first time and cried at the happy ending!
But my top 3 in a tearful Miss World Order:
3. Field of Dreams - a dad/lad kind of a film.
2. One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest - a merciful release.
1. Dead Poets Society - stand on the desks.
But my top 3 in a tearful Miss World Order:
3. Field of Dreams - a dad/lad kind of a film.
2. One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest - a merciful release.
1. Dead Poets Society - stand on the desks.
Uncle Spielberg
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I don't think Spielberg or Williams manipulated anyone in Schindler's List. Williams produced one of the greatest all time film scores that would hold its own as a classical masterpiece. The theme to Schindler's List is heart achingly sad. The music was used sparingly over the course of the film.
Spielberg had a monumental task transferring Schidler's Ark the book to Schindler's List the film, having to put the holocaust to celuloid was near on impossible but he acheived it.
He considered things that he felt he could not put into the film such as showing people being gassed at Auchwitz. Also the SS officers were known for throwing babies out of buildings for the german officers to shoot at as target practice as they fell which he decided could not be put it.
I guess the fact the the jews who survived did not think the film manipulated the facts and were happy with it representation is the key.
Spielberg had a monumental task transferring Schidler's Ark the book to Schindler's List the film, having to put the holocaust to celuloid was near on impossible but he acheived it.
He considered things that he felt he could not put into the film such as showing people being gassed at Auchwitz. Also the SS officers were known for throwing babies out of buildings for the german officers to shoot at as target practice as they fell which he decided could not be put it.
I guess the fact the the jews who survived did not think the film manipulated the facts and were happy with it representation is the key.
Meade's Ball
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I disagree.
Spielberg inserted masses of unnecessary and uncouth style into the film. And not the type of stark style that rips at the flesh, but the comforting one-dimensional style he is limited by.
The final scene of them walking over the hill made me want to wretch. That the holocaust had been depicted like a tv movie with the simple narrative hooks that dominate his saccharine world made me most uncomfortable. The more he went on about just wanting to tell the story, the less i believed him. And when i saw the film (went to see it on my own so no other judgements could effect mine) i felt i saw the proof of that.
I agree that it was probably a difficult film to make, but i think there will be many more provoking and interesting films to be made about it.
Spielberg inserted masses of unnecessary and uncouth style into the film. And not the type of stark style that rips at the flesh, but the comforting one-dimensional style he is limited by.
The final scene of them walking over the hill made me want to wretch. That the holocaust had been depicted like a tv movie with the simple narrative hooks that dominate his saccharine world made me most uncomfortable. The more he went on about just wanting to tell the story, the less i believed him. And when i saw the film (went to see it on my own so no other judgements could effect mine) i felt i saw the proof of that.
I agree that it was probably a difficult film to make, but i think there will be many more provoking and interesting films to be made about it.
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Nurse Laura
Titanic- ok, i was 11!!!
Moulin Rouge
Armageddon
Moulin Rouge
Armageddon
Dave the OAP
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There is always an argument when a film is made as a representation of a book.
When reading a book, imagination of the reader provides the images inside the mind and the interpretation of the written word is purely personal. Where a film is made based on a book, however loosly, the watcher, especially if he/she has read the book, sees something that is the interpretation of another. Therefore it is very seldom that a film based on a book is universally accepted.
the James Bond films are a classic example of this. The early books by Ian Flemming are transposed on to the screen fairly accurately, whereas the later books bear no resemblance whatsoever to the books.
I found Hook an incredibly sad film especailly at the end, which again was a Speilberg film.
I could not watch the Lassie films when I was a kid. They upset me far too much
When reading a book, imagination of the reader provides the images inside the mind and the interpretation of the written word is purely personal. Where a film is made based on a book, however loosly, the watcher, especially if he/she has read the book, sees something that is the interpretation of another. Therefore it is very seldom that a film based on a book is universally accepted.
the James Bond films are a classic example of this. The early books by Ian Flemming are transposed on to the screen fairly accurately, whereas the later books bear no resemblance whatsoever to the books.
I found Hook an incredibly sad film especailly at the end, which again was a Speilberg film.
I could not watch the Lassie films when I was a kid. They upset me far too much
Uncle Spielberg
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Meade - We will have to disagree , I think you are totally and completely wrong.
Uncle Spielberg
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Unnecesary and uncouth style, what the hell is that supposed to mean. The end scene you refer to when the jews schindler saved from certain death probably did not " want to wretch ".
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bambi every time!
when bambi's mum dies
when bambi's mum dies
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ben andrews girlfriend said:
Heh heh, glad I wasn't the only one!
"I've got TB - cough cough!"
It was more the whole love thing which moved me though - booze induced of course.
Although the rape scene was horrible!
Meade's Ball
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We will indeed have to disagree GG, but thats all part of the fun.
I found the storytelling clunky and the filming garish and naive.
I think the subject-matter and the tale itself obviously incredible, but i don't believe it was a well-contructed telling and i lost a lot of feeling for it then.
All i know for sure is that when i came out of the cinema, there was no burning desire for justice in me or satisfaction that resolution had been found. And there were no questions i wanted answered.
Nothing like 'Farewell My Concubine', which told a personal tale in amongst the brutality of the Chinese revolution. For me, the fuller picture painted of individuals, the more you sense the greater loss. Otherwise, all i've lost is another momentary charicature.
I found the storytelling clunky and the filming garish and naive.
I think the subject-matter and the tale itself obviously incredible, but i don't believe it was a well-contructed telling and i lost a lot of feeling for it then.
All i know for sure is that when i came out of the cinema, there was no burning desire for justice in me or satisfaction that resolution had been found. And there were no questions i wanted answered.
Nothing like 'Farewell My Concubine', which told a personal tale in amongst the brutality of the Chinese revolution. For me, the fuller picture painted of individuals, the more you sense the greater loss. Otherwise, all i've lost is another momentary charicature.
Mental Lental
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Can't believe nobodys mentioned The Green Mile yet. The end where they all have to watch Patrick Clarke Duncan fry had me bawling. I was in the cinema at the time too.
Deano's Right Foot
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I think that Schindler's List was a good Hollywood film, but that it has faults. It was over-simple morally and very sentimental. It is arguably impossible to make a Holywood film directly about the holocaust. Hollywood and Spielberg chooses to make a feel good movie (bearing many similarities to ET IMHO) about an exceptional man, but one who was very much the exception at the time. The saving of the women at Auschwitz by the arrival of some miraculous piece of paper didn't happen, and the film is really a love story between Schindler and the Jewsih people of Krakow.
Of course no-one would see a film of unremitting misery showing the more extreme atrocities tnat occurred at the time, and one without a character that the audience can know, like, love or identify with, which is why Hollywood could never make a truly honest film about the holocaust.
And yes, in my mind, the scene with the girl in the red coat was manipulative, enabling us to identify one particular jew, and a child at that, and see her later in a pile of bodies. Of course, as a parent, that got to me.
Excuse me if I've not made much sense here. I'm dabbling in theories that I don't have a strong grip of, not having done film studies! I just had a feeling a couple of days after the film that I had been manipulated, and tried to find out more about it all.
On balance, I'm actually glad that the film was made, in that many people were educated to some degree in the atrocities. Arguably better than a less sentimental but truer documentary account seen by many fewer people.
Of course no-one would see a film of unremitting misery showing the more extreme atrocities tnat occurred at the time, and one without a character that the audience can know, like, love or identify with, which is why Hollywood could never make a truly honest film about the holocaust.
And yes, in my mind, the scene with the girl in the red coat was manipulative, enabling us to identify one particular jew, and a child at that, and see her later in a pile of bodies. Of course, as a parent, that got to me.
Excuse me if I've not made much sense here. I'm dabbling in theories that I don't have a strong grip of, not having done film studies! I just had a feeling a couple of days after the film that I had been manipulated, and tried to find out more about it all.
On balance, I'm actually glad that the film was made, in that many people were educated to some degree in the atrocities. Arguably better than a less sentimental but truer documentary account seen by many fewer people.