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Creaky

Well-known member
Mar 26, 2013
3,862
Hookwood - Nr Horley
A legal challenge against giving money to charity. I don't think that would help a club's image.

I'm expecting a legal challenge from ANY club that is subject to fines on promotion irrespective of how the money is disbursed.

With figures in the millions it would likely be years before any judgement was finalised.
 


Mutts Nuts

New member
Oct 30, 2011
4,918
A legal challenge against giving money to charity. I don't think that would help a club's image.

And the ***** new this all along,which charities will get the money? The fund for retired pissed up ex footballers that spunked their fortunes on drugs fast cars and dim witted slags no doubt.
 


The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
David Burke said on the Roar that only fines for clubs being promoted to the Premier League 'might go to charity' (they hadn't apparently finalised details) - as the club in question would be leaving the Football League, and therefore out of its control.

He said that fines for clubs staying in the Football League would be distributed among other Football League clubs.

This story in the MoS has either missed this very important point, or the Football League clubs have suddenly become invertebrates.
 


Dave the OAP

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
46,761
at home
Did anyone seriously believe the fines would be distributed to all the other clubs?

FFP is one big con in an effort from the football authorities to make it look like they are all good guys really after years of financial mismanagement....I just hope we are not the only ones to have fallen for this.

Financial prudence is one thing, but playing on a level field is another.

I hope whoever runs the financials in the club hadn't factored in a windfall of FFP fines coming our way a bit like ppi claims! If so they may be regretting that.
 




KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
21,094
Wolsingham, County Durham
David Burke said on the Roar that only fines for clubs being promoted to the Premier League 'might go to charity' (they hadn't apparently finalised details) - as the club in question would be leaving the Football League, and therefore out of its control.

He said that fines for clubs staying in the Football League would be distributed among other Football League clubs.

This story in the MoS has either missed this very important point, or the Football League clubs have suddenly become invertebrates.

But clubs promoted to the PL are the only ones being fined. Clubs promoted from League 1 do not appear to be and neither are clubs that stay in the Championship.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,015
I'm expecting a legal challenge from ANY club that is subject to fines on promotion irrespective of how the money is disbursed.

With figures in the millions it would likely be years before any judgement was finalised.

why would clubs that asked for some form of restraint and agreed to the FFP system then legally challenge anything within the rules agreed?
 


drew

Drew
NSC Patron
Oct 3, 2006
23,614
Burgess Hill
But clubs promoted to the PL are the only ones being fined. Clubs promoted from League 1 do not appear to be and neither are clubs that stay in the Championship.

I believe if you overspend and don't get promoted, you still get fined and a transfer embargo. As for League one, aren't they on a different measurement system to championship clubs?
 




KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
21,094
Wolsingham, County Durham
I believe if you overspend and don't get promoted, you still get fined and a transfer embargo. As for League one, aren't they on a different measurement system to championship clubs?

League 1 - yes they are. And there is nothing on the Football League website that suggests that club's remaining in the championship get fined. Only transfer embargoes.
 


David Burke said on the Roar that only fines for clubs being promoted to the Premier League 'might go to charity' (they hadn't apparently finalised details) - as the club in question would be leaving the Football League, and therefore out of its control.

He said that fines for clubs staying in the Football League would be distributed among other Football League clubs.

This story in the MoS has either missed this very important point, or the Football League clubs have suddenly become invertebrates.
This is another consequence of the spineless FA decision back in the early nineties to hand over control of the football money to the Premier League clubs.

Going back to basics ... is there any GOOD reason why English club football shouldn't be controlled by ONE organisation?
 


Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,748
LOONEY BIN
They were just talking about it on SKY Sunday Supplement and it seems they will head off to the courts rather than abide by the FFP rules so what is the point of it all ? Spend what you want and if you go bust then have the sanctions but if you can afford to bankroll the club then carry on.

Just have stricter punishments if you go into administration
 






Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,315
Living In a Box
But if they fail to achieve promotion they will be hit with a transfer embargo.

Just do a Watford then, solves all your problems.
 






GT49er

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 1, 2009
49,186
Gloucester
Simples. Forget fines - replace them with relegation (all the way to league two for serious breaches).
 


Mutts Nuts

New member
Oct 30, 2011
4,918
David Burke said on the Roar that only fines for clubs being promoted to the Premier League 'might go to charity' (they hadn't apparently finalised details) - as the club in question would be leaving the Football League, and therefore out of its control.

He said that fines for clubs staying in the Football League would be distributed among other Football League clubs.

This story in the MoS has either missed this very important point, or the Football League clubs have suddenly become invertebrates.

The clubs that stay in the football league will not have the money to pay the fines that is obvious to anyone with half an ounze of intelligence .Football in this country is run by spineless wankers
 


El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
40,006
Pattknull med Haksprut
The clubs that stay in the football league will not have the money to pay the fines that is obvious to anyone with half an ounze of intelligence .

Irony.jpg
 


Creaky

Well-known member
Mar 26, 2013
3,862
Hookwood - Nr Horley
I believe if you overspend and don't get promoted, you still get fined and a transfer embargo. As for League one, aren't they on a different measurement system to championship clubs?

According to the League 'rules' on FFP there won't be any fines for clubs that stay in the Championship - fines only apply to those promoted to the Premier league.

http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/FLExplainedDetail/0,,10794~2748246,00.html

All academic though if a club promoted to the EPL refuse to or cannot pay the fine.

Even more difficult to impose sanctions on a club such as QPR who didn't vote on the League FFP proposals.
 






BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
The simple answer is build a squad to aim for promotion end of season 14/15so the transfer embargo wont affect you as you wont need anymore players to come in.
 


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