Falmer(Amex)

[durrington gull]

I reckon around 12k on average next season in L1, it really depends on the prices though. The club need to ensure that they price the ST's to ensure there is a good take up. Personally a price freeze would be good and i reckon we could get a good take up of ST's if so.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

The fans are out there MB but the trouble has been the Withdean and its facillities.The Amex will be 1st class and they should all come flocking back but along with pricing,success on the park is equally if not more important.
We will get very,very good attendances next season but we need the product to keep them attending.

I so hope you right. TB deserves big crowds for the massive gift he has given to all the faithful fans.
Maybe it's down to a bit of door knocking and spreading the word!!

 

[wigman]

I so hope you right. TB deserves big crowds for the massive gift he has given to all the faithful fans.
Maybe it's down to a bit of door knocking and spreading the word!!

 

[Barnham Seagull]

Huddersfield would be a reasonable comparison.

I think our crowds would be pretty similar to what they have had over the years at the Galpharm. Athough our crowds would be higher as we are just moving in etc and the club is on an upwird spiral.

Crowds at the Goldstone in the late 80's and 90's should not be used as a guide, many stayed away after the east terrace was mostly closed and people were unhappy with the way the club was being run this coupled with mostly being shite! Although I'm sure the attendaces were under reported for tax reasons in the 90's!

 

[sir albion]

Christ how negative are people
Even in the dire days at the goldstone in the bottom division we got 7k+
England historical attendance and performance

Our history is far better than swansea,reading etc
Remember when we moved into withdean with a 6k capacity and ended up with ticket applicants of 15-25k for many matches.Of course that wore off after a while but no surprise being withdean

1,massive massive catchment area
2,best stadium in the country
3,ambitious chairman

That=falmer is too small

Our crowds have always been very very good and thats mostly lower league football,the demand at falmer will be huge you mark my words.

 

[wigman]

Our crowds have always been very very good and thats mostly lower league football,the demand at falmer will be huge you mark my words.

100% in agreement with you,we are going to suprise a few people.

 

[sir albion]

100% in agreement with you,we are going to suprise a few people.

All these people that say 10-12k is hilarious
I predict 10k season tickets no probs

 

[wigman]

All these people that say 10-12k is hilarious
I predict 10k season tickets no probs

I was saying on another thread about a year back that we would sell a MINIMUM of 10k season tickets at Falmer and that was laughed at by many on here.

 

[sir albion]

I was saying on another thread about a year back that we would sell a MINIMUM of 10k season tickets at Falmer and that was laughed at by many on here.

We have to many naive young fans who only picture withdean and 6k crowds but never see the whole picture.

Most of the olden's know we have massive massive potential and that will be seen next season even if its league 1 football

Christ even ex managers have said the potential is huge yet our own naive fans think not

Glad we agree and i know for a fact crowds will be at least 17-18k next season,if wrong i will drink my own sperm

 

[Djmiles]

I was saying on another thread about a year back that we would sell a MINIMUM of 10k season tickets at Falmer and that was laughed at by many on here.

If we can sell 2,000 premium season tickets in the first few months, it bodes very well for normal season tickets.

Everyone will want a piece of history in the first season, just like when we first moved into Withdean (waiting list to get tickets from memory?).

 

[wigman]

We have to many naive young fans who only picture withdean and 6k crowds but never see the whole picture.

Most of the olden's know we have massive massive potential and that will be seen next season even if its league 1 football

Christ even ex managers have said the potential is huge yet our own naive fans think not

Glad we agree and i know for a fact crowds will be at least 17-18k next season,if wrong i will drink my own sperm

I reckon 16-17k in this league and around 18.5 average if promoted.
Away fans will see the stadium and the city as a must have trip imo and that will help swell the crowd.

 

[sir albion]

I reckon 16-17k in this league and around 18.5 average if promoted.
Away fans will see the stadium and the city as a must have trip imo and that will help swell the crowd.

The big let down in the championship is that we only have 20k seats for home fans

The only let down on crowds will be shite away followings,still we've waited long enough and certainly can't complain about a small capacity

 

[Steve Foster]

I really can't believe that you are a financial advisor given your complete lack of common sense about anything. For starters, the 1901 club will have 2000 seats. The club are on record saying that 30% of these are current season ticket holders. Meaning 1400 are not so the majority are obviously new supporters. Add this to the current Withdean average and you have nearly 8000 already. Add in the average increase seen by other clubs of around 40% and you get to 11000 odd.

Then all you have to remember is that none of the other clubs had been playing in a dilapidated athletics track for the last 12 years but were actually playing in fully functional stadia with a roof and everything.

But then you knew all of that didn't you and it was just a continuation of your oh-so-hilarious moaning persona.

As you have rightfully stated I am a Financial Adviser, so yes I am pretty good with figures. I am not a creative Accountant.

Following your hypothese, I concur with the 2000, 1901 seats being taken & that 1400 of these are non season ticket holders, which would take our current average gate of 6,500 to 7,900.

Now assuming that our gate does increase (in the longer term, higher estimate, by your 40%). Then this 40% is not in addition to the 1901 members. After all other clubs have similar schemes. This brings in 2,600 extra in total = 9,100.

With a few more away supporters & more ad hoc support (& the ability of the club to give some tickets away to kids), let's call it 10,000 hard core fans.

If we are languishing in league 1 the year after Falmer opens, playing poor opposition, many of the corporates won't turn up - 10% conservatively; hence the 9,000 crowd.

This of course is all hypothetical as the Albion will be hopefully in the Championship & will attract more support. I can easily see the hard core of 6,000 that we have at Withdean, to the 10,000 in this example, being 15,000 in the Championship. Bigger games, playing Palace, Premiership teams on the way down & we should be getting 18/20,000 at least.

However, don't discount the example above, if we are still in League one in 2012. If this were so, then I suspect there will be a number of games when we don't crack 10,000

 

[BHABen]

the easiest way to answer this question is to ask yourself the following, how many people do you know that dont go to withdean at all or often, but have stated when falmer arrives they will start going or maybe invest in a season ticket. Im one of the regular 6-7000 at withdean i can honestly say i know of at least ten people who have been to withdean once a season twice tops that have said they will go alot. Plus success will bring in the crowds, if we did make the prem, falmer isnt big enough

 

[Geriatric Seagull]

Everything about the new stadium looks great - apart from the access. With crowds of around 15000 how will they get to and from Falmer? It's all very well having bars on site but not everyone either wants, or is able, to get there early. Falmer station is totally inadequate - short platforms etc. whilst for those living outside the immediate area to the west the prospect of a longer park and ride journey than now is not exactly attractive. And then there are those travelling from the Lewes direction - train or park and ride after they have driven past the ground towards Brighton? At the moment relatively few home supporters travel by train but what happens when there are several thousand trying to get on trains at the same time as the hoped for increase in away fans?
O.k. so I'm a grumpy old man but it does concern me that after the initial gloss has worn off people will stop bothering because of the travel problems.

 

[Barnham Seagull]

As you have rightfully stated I am a Financial Adviser, so yes I am pretty good with figures. I am not a creative Accountant.

Following your hypothese, I concur with the 2000, 1901 seats being taken & that 1400 of these are non season ticket holders, which would take our current average gate of 6,500 to 7,900.

Now assuming that our gate does increase (in the longer term, higher estimate, by your 40%). Then this 40% is not in addition to the 1901 members. After all other clubs have similar schemes. This brings in 2,600 extra in total = 9,100.

With a few more away supporters & more ad hoc support (& the ability of the club to give some tickets away to kids), let's call it 10,000 hard core fans.

If we are languishing in league 1 the year after Falmer opens, playing poor opposition, many of the corporates won't turn up - 10% conservatively; hence the 9,000 crowd.

This of course is all hypothetical as the Albion will be hopefully in the Championship & will attract more support. I can easily see the hard core of 6,000 that we have at Withdean, to the 10,000 in this example, being 15,000 in the Championship. Bigger games, playing Palace, Premiership teams on the way down & we should be getting 18/20,000 at least.

However, don't discount the example above, if we are still in League one in 2012. If this were so, then I suspect there will be a number of games when we don't crack 10,000

Looking at clubs like Hudders, Reading, Hull, Swansea etc do you think our crowds would be worse than theirs say in the championship?

 

[BHABen]

Everything about the new stadium looks great - apart from the access. With crowds of around 15000 how will they get to and from Falmer? It's all very well having bars on site but not everyone either wants, or is able, to get there early. Falmer station is totally inadequate - short platforms etc. whilst for those living outside the immediate area to the west the prospect of a longer park and ride journey than now is not exactly attractive. And then there are those travelling from the Lewes direction - train or park and ride after they have driven past the ground towards Brighton? At the moment relatively few home supporters travel by train but what happens when there are several thousand trying to get on trains at the same time as the hoped for increase in away fans?
O.k. so I'm a grumpy old man but it does concern me that after the initial gloss has worn off people will stop bothering because of the travel problems.

With regards to travel, will it be worse than it is now, correct me if im wrong but falmer station will be alot nearer than preston park is to withdean.

 

[Simster]

As I said at the beginning of the thread, we'll average 18,000 at least. Plenty of professional people I know have been shown the facilities and are now of the same opinion.

Worse case scenario in 2 or 3 years - if we have a crap team we might get these 10,000 crowds - but only because of the pay on the gate problem. "Steve Foster" is talking out of his negative arse.

 

[webbyson]

Well done and congratulations.....thanks for all your 'proper' support for the club when it was really needed.
If you were a real supporter of this wonderful football club, then you should have done what (approx)6,000 of us have done for the last few years.

I dont get the Knocking of fans who have fallen out of love with football and are pissed off with sitting in the rain after forking out 25 quid, travelling 80 odd miles and are then looking forward to watching their team in comfort after saving hard for a season ticket. You my friend need a reality check if you think everyone who has watched Brighton in the past are not worthy supporters because they have not spent all there hard earned money watching every game " when support for the club when it was really needed"
We should embrace every type of supporter, casual, hardcore, families ect not castigate thousands who feel the same way as i do!
You dont even know how long i have supported the club and how much time, effort and money i have invested in the club (long before Withdean)
Lets welcome all fans eh?



* Just read your profile notes and bow down to your dedication to the club, and power to the 6000 who turn up every week but i think people will be surprised how many fans we have out there are like me, bad fans maybe but we will increase the attendances at The Amex and that cannot be a bad thing...can it?

 

[BHABen]

Anyone on here who doesnt think we have the support to start getting decent crowds is either 20 or under, or have never been to an away game