FAI demand game is replayed

[ATFC Seagull]

Is it actually the FAI demanding it, or some random person who isn't actually affiliated with them? The FAI have no such demand on their website yet...

edit: although the Taoiseach (prime minister) IS calling for a replay.

Yeah they have more or less - theres a press conference currently looping on SSN where Delaney is saying "the balls in their court...if they really believe in fair play" etc etc etc.

"Demand" is a strong word, but they have come out with the idea.

 

[fleet]

More or less every Brighton game this season would need a replay based on some very dodgy ref decisions - the season wouldn't finish before next season is due to start!

 

[saafend_seagull]

Ermmmmmm, how about they start the gamem with a penalty, and then carry on, Anelkas was the most obvious penalty. 1-1 on decisions. That is all.

 

[Easy 10]

Except it HAS been done in the past already...

That was because of a referee actually applying the wrong rule in a match, not just missing an incident. Something to do with encroachment on a penalty kick which was scored, but instead of a retake, the ref awarded an indirect free kick.

 

[ManxSeagull]

Just don't let Henry play in the World Cup and that referee to reff in the World Cup , simple.

Perhaps a new rule should be introduced.

If an indcident happens i.e. diving for penalty, blatant handball etc that results in a goal being scored or denied, the referee should ask the player in question did you dive/handle the ball etc? If the player says no, the result still stands but the incident is reviewed after the game.

If the player is found to have blatantly lied he gets a 10 match ban, plus a very substantial fine, i.e 2 months wages.

In this instance Henry would miss the World Cup.

I am sure players would start being honest in games if they would be suspended for a significant number of games. I know there is the possibility that a player may lie for the team, but that team would be without that player for a while and he could be a key player.

Perhaps also penalise the team in question that they hae to have one less player in their matchday squad for the period of suspension also.

 

[Timbo]

The fella from the FAI was going on about a game between Uzbekistan and Bahrain. Not sure what happened there? Is it the one Easy is on about?

 

[Timbo]

Perhaps a new rule should be introduced.

If an indcident happens i.e. diving for penalty, blatant handball etc that results in a goal being scored or denied, the referee should ask the player in question did you dive/handle the ball etc? If the player says no, the result still stands but the incident is reviewed after the game.

If the player is found to have blatantly lied he gets a 10 match ban, plus a very substantial fine, i.e 2 months wages.

Quite a good idea actually! It comes down to the same thing as video evidence though, when do u stop the game to ask the player/look at the video? Do you do it every time a team appeals for a foul?

 

[Spanish Seagulls]

Ermmmmmm, how about they start the gamem with a penalty, and then carry on, Anelkas was the most obvious penalty. 1-1 on decisions. That is all.

Anelka's was NOT a penalty. He left his foot in hoping to get one. The ref I thought had a good game except for the handball decision.

Apparently the French & Irish leaders are going to discuss it tonight whilst at the summit to select the EU President so I wouldn't be surprised if they did offer to replay in the name of fairness.

Yes, yes I know there could be lots of incidents from the past that could be brought up & said to warrant a replay but they ARE in the past this is a present situation in as far as it is currently being debated & this could finally be the turning point in the introduction of technology to assist ref's in making big decisions.

I for one would love to see a replay in the name of "sport"

I don't think anyone could begrudge the French a victory if that's how it turns out but what an excellent precedent it would set.

It has happened before between Bahrain & Someone or another & that was called for by FIFA

It would be excellent press for the French

 

[Brovion]

Except it HAS been done in the past already...

When? If you're thinking of the match between Uzbekistan and Bahrain that was because the referee applied the wrong rule about a penalty being re-taken, not for an 'honest' mistake. (The attacking side encroached and he awarded an indirect free kick to the defending team as opposed to letting the penalty be retaken)

Sorry, but if matches were allowed to be replayed just because a referee missed an incident then the season would never finish.

 

[ManxSeagull]

Quite a good idea actually! It comes down to the same thing as video evidence though, when do u stop the game to ask the player/look at the video? Do you do it every time a team appeals for a foul?

Maybe have a rule like tennis where a team can challenge say one decision in each half.

 

[Spanish Seagulls]

Quite a good idea actually! It comes down to the same thing as video evidence though, when do u stop the game to ask the player/look at the video? Do you do it every time a team appeals for a foul?

Whenever the ref consults with the linesman as they do.

 

[Timbo]

Whenever the ref consults with the linesman as they do.

But if he asks someone in the stand to have another look at something while the games going on and the ref in the stand needs 2 or 3 looks at it, then tells him its a foul about a minute later, then the ref blows his whistle and gives a foul while everyone in the stands wonders what the f*** is going on! And what happens to the minute?!

 

[ManxSeagull]

But if he asks someone in the stand to have another look at something while the games going on and the ref in the stand needs 2 or 3 looks at it, then tells him its a foul about a minute later, then the ref blows his whistle and gives a foul while everyone in the stands wonders what the f*** is going on! And what happens to the minute?!

It can only happen whn there is a natural break in the game like last night.

Otherwise limit to two challenges.

 

[Easy 10]

It can only happen whn there is a natural break in the game like last night.

Otherwise limit to two challenges.

And what happens if there isn't a break in play, and the other team scores ?
Or if the other team puts in a challenge while the existing challenge is "pending" ?

You would need to bring in a whole RAFT of legislation to accomodate TV replays. And it'd be the thin end of the wedge. Once you start using technology for decisions, it won't stop with the ones in the penalty area. You'll have calls for incidents in build-up, calls on offsides (and good luck picking the bones out of whether someone is "interfering with play" !), and the whole game as we know it would disappear up its own arse.

Goal-line technology - yes. Anything else involving Sky Sports coverage to make decisions - absolutely not.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

When? If you're thinking of the match between Uzbekistan and Bahrain that was because the referee applied the wrong rule about a penalty being re-taken, not for an 'honest' mistake. (The attacking side encroached and he awarded an indirect free kick to the defending team as opposed to letting the penalty be retaken)

Sorry, but if matches were allowed to be replayed just because a referee missed an incident then the season would never finish.

To be fair, I have no idea about that one apart from that Trappatoni mentioned it. I was referring more to the FA Cup game between Arsenal and Sheff Utd, and there must be many other examples where a replay has been AGREED, rather than decided upon by the governing body.

I know that was under the FA whereas this is FIFA/UEFA, but massive French bias and corruption aside, surely theres little difference?

 

[Timbo]

And what happens if there isn't a break in play, and the other team scores ?
Or if the other team puts in a challenge while the existing challenge is "pending" ?

Exactly. If a team challenges a decision, say claims a penalty. the ball then stays in play for 5 minutes and the other team end up scoring. then they have a look and decide it was actually a penalty 5 minutes ago! it'd turn into an absolute shambles.

referees make FAR fewer mistakes than the players as last nights otherwise excellent referee proved.

 

[m20gull]

What I love about football is the fact that it encompasses the whole range of human emotions. Raging against injustice is one of them and I do not want it taken away. Sanitise all the tennis matches and rugby games that you want but keep football raw. 1 ref and 2 assistants is enough.

 

[Easy 10]

To be fair, I have no idea about that one apart from that Trappatoni mentioned it. I was referring more to the FA Cup game between Arsenal and Sheff Utd, and there must be many other examples where a replay has been AGREED, rather than decided upon by the governing body.

I know that was under the FA whereas this is FIFA/UEFA, but massive French bias and corruption aside, surely theres little difference?

Thats the key.
If the FFF decide they just cannot go to the World Cup off the back of that goal last night, and did the gracious thing and OFFER to replay the game, then FIFA should stand back and allow it. And the whole WORLD would applaude France for doing the right thing in the name of true sportsmanship. If England had qualified how France did last night, this is EXACTLY what I would be calling on the FA to do, because anything we went on to achieve in South Africa next year would be irrecovably stained by how we got there.

The ball is in Frances court, not FIFA's. If they're happy to go through off the back of that, then frankly, they're cheating scum. They've still got a chance here to redeem themselves, its whether they take it.

 

[dougdeep]

Did England get a replay with the hand of god episode? Of course not, bad luck Ireland.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

Thats the key.
If the FFF decide they just cannot go to the World Cup off the back of that goal last night, and did the gracious thing and OFFER to replay the game, then FIFA should stand back and allow it. And the whole WORLD would applaude France for doing the right thing in the name of true sportsmanship. If England had qualified how France did last night, this is EXACTLY what I would be calling on the FA to do, because anything we went on to achieve in South Africa next year would be irrecovably stained by how we got there.

The ball is in Frances court, not FIFA's. If they're happy to go through off the back of that, then frankly, they're cheating scum. They've still got a chance here to redeem themselves, its whether they take it.

I suspect uncle Michel might quickly come out (probably through Blatter to look less corrupt) and pre-empt the FFF's response by saying he won't allow it - thus leaving them free to say that they would do but can't.