[Albion] Fab out?

[chaileyjem]

Most of the anti-Fab stuff on here is based on watching what he does with the team.

Maybe but there's also some bizarre stuff questioning his command of the dressing room, and the motivation of players purely because he says a few cliches and "guys " a lot based on 2 mins of footage and with no insight into what he says the rest of the time both 1:1 and with the group.
And also all manner of hearsay and speculation.

 

[pay no mind]

Bit of a strange post, but you only need to have a quick look on the Trump thread

Not really. The lad does seem a tab obsessed with our manager and, as far as I could tell, he'd disappeared since the Fab out threads have been prevalent. Glad to hear he's active in the Trump thread but I'll have to take your word for it as I pay no mind to non-football threads as much as possible.

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

How does our manager compare with Postegoglou? Is he worse than Fab or do Spuds just have an inferior squad? Ditto Thomas Frank, Ruben Amorim.

 

[Silverhatch]

With all due respect, this is all hearsay. I get that you want to support the current manager despite the job he’s doing, but there’s no basis around anything you’ve said other than rumour.

The only parts you backed up with any fact are that FHs been given a very sizable transfer war chest and an incredible amount of talent that RDZ was never given.

All true. But Hurzeler does not identify or choose the players. He’s head coach. RDZ pushed HARD to adapt the club’s approach. The club may have acquiesced slightly with our charismatic Italian (Igor/Fati?)but his subsequent meltdown has only hardened and refocused the recruitment strategy. Whether our German is ultimately capable of maximising the assets provided to him (especially after a 7-0 massacre) is why there are multiple head coach threads all over this board.

 

[chaileyjem]

How does our manager compare with Postegoglou? Is he worse than Fab or do Spuds just have an inferior squad? Ditto Thomas Frank, Ruben Amorim.

Exactly this. All managers in the PL are potentially a few losses away from the sack , or speculation about their future after a bad run. FABH being no exception. Ange has surely had a worse run that Hurzeler in the last few months. Why's that ? Perhaps he's over experienced ? ha ha.
Amorin hasn't exactly set the PL alight., Frank has struggled this season as well and Brentford are 3 points behind us. So has Glasner at points.
let alone McKenna, or 56 year old Peroira.

 

[The Fits]

How does our manager compare with Postegoglou? Is he worse than Fab or do Spuds just have an inferior squad? Ditto Thomas Frank, Ruben Amorim.

I would say all three have a VERY clear way of playing. They might not always be getting results but it’s clear what they want. Almiron has basically said the players aren’t good enough and can’t play my system but he is sticking to his guns. Frank is Frank. Ange, well, he’s stubborn at least.
I like to play a game in my head about many things. It’s called the ‘can I explain it in a sentence?’ game. You could do that about their style of play, footballing philosophy etc.
From what we’ve seen of Fab so far? Much trickier.

 

[Mancgull]

This season I’m not massively concerned about results but I’d absolutely love us to win every game.
For me being result focussed with a new manager isn’t entirely helpful. If we were punching above our weight it would be foolish to want the manager out, even if you didn’t think he had much of a clue. You couldn’t argue with the results on the pitch.
But, when we are about par for the course, individual results are nowhere near as tangiable as performances.
Win, draw or lose our next five games, in the long run that means very little. What actually matters is has this manager shown he is actually learning? Is he showing any signs of instilling good habits in the players? Do the players look motivated and organised? Is there a recognisable shape and structure to our performances? Is there any control? Are we moving forwards, standing still or going backwards?
Because these are the things that really matter over a whole season, will realy matter next season, and the difference between finishing approx 7th vs 14th. Otherwise we just accept mid table and I think any manager could achieve that with this squad.
Not asking for miracles. Just genuine signs that the manager has the ability to push us on over the next few years.

Precisely this. I want to see some tangible improvements in performance. If there is, I’ll be happy that he is working hard on turning this around.

 

[Flounce]

Hard to believe watching the Liverpool vs Spurs game that we played them off the park in our best 45 minute performance of the season. Why haven’t we been able to to reproduce that sort of football?

 

[Weststander]

Hard to believe watching the Liverpool vs Spurs game that we played them off the park in our best 45 minute performance of the season. Why haven’t we been able to to reproduce that sort of football?

Injuries, we had a proper CM then.
Monumental effort and energy put into that 55 minutes, then the players completely ran out of gas, fell off a cliff. Game management rose its head, a theme this season?