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[Albion] Fab out?

Fab OUT


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Solid at the back

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Sep 1, 2010
2,766
Glorious Shoreham by Sea
Why are people saying Rob Edwards and McKenna?

Edwards has taken Luton backwards this season, and yeah McKenna has done a good job at Ipswich the last few seasons, but he's been found at at this level. Ipswich have spent millions this season and they are turd. They've just lost at home to Southampton, one of the worst teams in PL history as it stands. They even made us look good.
 


Driver8

On the road...
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Jul 31, 2005
16,386
North Wales
Now I see why he’s in the door, Bloom admitted he should’ve hired him instead of Hypia.
You can almost guarantee if FH leaves the building he will be the next head coach.

Wasn’t it Sascha Lewandowski who was the brains behind Hyypia’s success? Just as well we didn’t hire him as he was held by the police for child abuse and subsequently killed himself.
 








Beanstalk

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Apr 5, 2017
3,184
London
Has this Niedzkowski chap ever managed at a decent level, Or is he only like a FIFA badge coach?
3 years as Leverkusen Assistant Manager mostly under Roger Schmidt (inc. in the Champions and Europa Leagues), 8 years as the Germany U21 Assistant Manager (where he coached Gruda for 10 games) and 3 games as interim Germany Assistant Manager. He's also held the position of Chief Instructor of the DFB Fussball-Lehrer-Ausbildung (the most exclusive coaching course that has produced coaches such as Jurgen Klopp, Thomas Tuchel, Hansi Flick, Joachim Low, and Julian Nagelsmann).

He's a serious coup for the club and has a history of continuing his work if a coach departs. He has only just arrived and I'm hopeful he'll be the support that the club needs going forward.
 




Oh_aye

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Jul 8, 2022
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Most on here want to criticise Potter for all the emotional intelligence stuff and now want to criticise Hurzeler for being tough and passionate and whatever. He sounds pretty similar to RDZ in personality tbh, but all this character assassination on here from gossip and hearsay is getting way out of hand.
He seems absolutely nothing like RDZ to me. Admittedly only seen on clips and stuff. He seems very passive, collegiate and soppy and I've only ever heard him speak in clichés.

RDZ was absolutely bromming with menace in almost every scenario and was a complete authoritarian.
 




Wozza

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Jul 6, 2003
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Minteh Wonderland
I know many roll their eyes at Xg, but I looked because my impression is that we don't have the control of games that we've become used to over the last few seasons. Teams seem happy to let us have possession in areas that are not threatening, assured that they can get into shape and defend against our slow build up.

Across the season so far, our Xg measured against our Xga is now in the minus column. Totalled from games up until the end of November it was +1.18, but since then -3.95. Totalling -2.77 across the season so far. We haven't had a negative in this column over a season since 2019/20.

Now Saturday's disaster is a major factor in this calculation. We were still just in the positive until that disgraceful collapse, but we are making less chances and conceding more chances. The drop off at the end of last season left us +0.97 for the term, after RDZ's previous +27.57 and Potter's +2.36 and +13.91. The chances created has been up and down over that period, but the chances given to the opposition has been steadily on the rise from 39.91 to 47.21 to 50.15 to 60.94. If you extrapolate our current position across 38 games it would be 61.39 for this year.

Actual goals conceded has also been on a season to season rise, from the mid 40s under Potter to the 50s and then 60s under RDZ. We're on target for the 60s again this season. We have become much easier to score against. Something that seemed a pay off of risk and reward when RDZ's bait and switch was scoring us loads too, but we've now hit the point where, as Saturday underlined, the attack is slow and laboured and the defence is committed too high as a result of this.

We seem very seldom to be playing in space in the opposition's half and our opponents always seem to have acres of it in ours. We've invested in loads of quick wingers presumably to run into space, but our wingers seemingly always have a defensive barrier to run through. We seem to have bought the players to play more Klopp, less Pep, but we haven't made the tactical change to exploit these talents. Nobody falls for the counter press lure any more and our response seems to be to try to get the overloads by committing more and more players forward. This doesn't work often because however many of us there are up there, playing in crowded spaces is very difficult.

I can't offer any easy solution to this quandary, but it's notable that, when Hurzeler arrived, it was with the knowledge from his time at St Pauli that defensively he liked a high press, that would quickly drop into a low block if possession was not won back straight away. We don't seem to have seen very much of the latter part of this approach and it could very well be that it's more difficult to do against EPL teams that have the midfielders who can find the small spaces to move the ball quicker in transition. However, it could also be that our players are simply not getting back quickly enough.

There was a point on Saturday where Welbeck had the chance of a quick break, but it quickly fizzled out and it was notable how many of Forest's players made the effort to get back and defend. We don't seem to be doing the same. We've lost players like Burn, Lallana, Mac Allister who set examples and insisted on standards from their colleagues. Milner is a similar sort of character, but hasn't been on the pitch to do it. It seems that we are a bit like Chelsea of the last couple of years, too many young stars and not enough leaders and grafters. I don't know if Hurzeler is the problem, or whether he will resolve it given time. I just know that we've been spoiled being extrordinary for a few seasons and it's very frustrating watching us look ordinary.

Excuse the rambling. Saturday hurt us all and, though reactionary decisions are likely to be wrong ones, it's obvious that something neeeds to change, but not at all obvious what.
I see Bozza posted this to Facebook.

This response - from a 'top fan' - made me LOL.

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slimes

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Aug 23, 2011
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cheltenham
I worry that the club bringing in Daniel Niedzkowski has made them more reluctant to pull the trigger. If the reports of disharmony in the dressing room are correct and the stats aren't showing a positive upturn, then the writing's on the wall - we're just delaying the inevitable, whilst possibly stunting the development of players.
Early December..
I was thinking that same reason.
With the kamikaze highline football and putting players in the wrong positions..
I thought that Daniel maybe able to help FH.. but its got worse.
And with all the talented youngsters rightly jumping ship and the dressing room in disarray.
I was laughed at back in early December as I had a different opinion to most here.

I'm stunned FH is still here..

Even the poll suggests only 1 in 5 think he should stay.

I've backed Brighton to do well in the Fa cup at the beginning of the season with all the quality players we have...

Just wished Tony sacked him so we had a slight hope.
 




dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
16,623
London
Who remembers when fab was organising team building exercises for the guys? Ten pin bowling / go karting etc.

I'm guessing no takers now? And also seems to be a lot less of things like buzzs boot room this season
 




chaileyjem

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Jun 27, 2012
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I'm guessing no takers now? And also seems to be a lot less of things like buzzs boot room this season
Last season there were 7 episodes of Boot Room (the final one was after the end of the season cos Pascal left)
This year there's been 4 so far - the most recent being Christmas.
There's also been 23 episodes so far this season of Unlocked which is a mix of BTS stuff and pitchside footage. The last one was a week ago.
 




mejonaNO12 aka riskit

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Dec 4, 2003
22,166
England
Last season there were 7 episodes of Boot Room (the final one was after the end of the season cos Pascal left)
This year there's been 4 so far - the most recent being Christmas.
There's also been 23 episodes so far this season of Unlocked which is a mix of BTS stuff and pitchside footage. The last one was a week ago.
Yeah but apart from that
 


Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
8,874
Vilamoura, Portugal
Post-match? He looked absolutely broken: eyes down nearly all the time, hardly looked at the interviewer never mind the camera and it was a painful watch even more so to me than the match. I felt really sorry for him. The whole thing implied something much bigger than just the Forest result.
He's been watching every single Ange interview and decided "that'll do for me".
 








dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
16,623
London
Last season there were 7 episodes of Boot Room (the final one was after the end of the season cos Pascal left)
This year there's been 4 so far - the most recent being Christmas.
There's also been 23 episodes so far this season of Unlocked which is a mix of BTS stuff and pitchside footage. The last one was a week ago.
Fair enough !
 




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