[Albion] Fab out?

[chaileyjem]

Good thing we gave a young manager with a lot to learn, the biggest spend possible.

He's not responsible for squad rebuilding, loans or transfer spend so this is a bit of a moot point. He is responsible though for integrating new young players into the squad, coping with injuries and developing players - that's the job. Perhaps the new signings have put a bit more pressure on him to succeed , its certainly given those fond of the RDZ glory days a talking point , but the job is pressured enough as it is. All PL managers have a lot of incoming and this type of responsibility.Or are you saying we shouldn't have strengthened the squad - to give him more time to bed in ?

(I think what you really mean is - we shouldn't have hired him in the first place ha ha)

 

[Seasider78]

And then we've seriously regressed in the following two games, the two worst performances of the season. You need to build on these good results, we have not built on them at all.

Against an Everton side who have been reinvigorated under an experienced manager who played a system and tactics that our last 3 managers have also struggled against and the 3rd best side in division with a depleted squad and midfield withdrawals that include our best player.

Saturday was terrible but we are all looking at the manager to somehow wave a wand and make all our problems disappear. He has had a lot of injuries and rotation to deal with which RDZ faced in the second half of last season with similar results so hard to put this all on the manger.

FH will be having a hard look at himself today but it’s not all on him and some of the players need to step up and improve their performances as well.

We now have 2 tough games with Chelsea and a winnable visit to Southampton so let’s hope we get the reaction we all want to see but if the mood in the stands is anything like it is on here it won’t be helping the cause either.

 

[Home and Away]

I think there's few thighs here going wrong at the moment... we seem to only sign "prospects" who are not ready to compete in the PL. All the signings are "for the future"... which never realises as the top players get sold/unsettled as we don't reach the heights they expect. Or the club/manager cannot have the time, energy or means to make these "prospects" better and therefore they get loaned to lesser clubs and disappear in couple of seasons. We also sign old PL greats as role models, but they are all over 34yo and prone to injuries, slowed down, etc.

We don't seem to sign anyone to make an impact here and now. Not a single PL/Top flight proven player that's strong, fast, big/tall that can take the game by the scruff of the neck.

Then there's the manager... I get that it might be very difficult to get the team playing the way he wants if the team is full of young people from all around the world with variable experience in top flight football. However... tactical naivety, poor game management and inability to adapt setting for the games and during games has cost us this season... a lot. I can't obviously comment on the morale or the atmosphere behind closed doors, but if there are disclipinary challenges in the team it's obviously not a good sign.

And don't get me started on the injuries... there's something wrong there as well... unless obviously these "injuries" are a disguise for disciplinary action?

 

[jackalbion]

He's not responsible for squad rebuilding, loans or transfer spend so this is a bit of a moot point. He is responsible though for integrating new young players into the squad, coping with injuries and developing players - that's the job. Perhaps the new signings have put a bit more pressure on him to succeed , its certainly given those fond of the RDZ glory days a talking point , but the job is pressured enough as it is. All PL managers have a lot of incoming and this type of responsibility.Or are you saying we shouldn't have strengthened the squad - to give him more time to bed in ?

(I think what you really mean is - we shouldn't have hired him in the first place ha ha)

That is really what I mean, but that is the situation we found ourselves in, in the summer, there were no good options, we put all our eggs in the McKenna basket and he didn't fancy it. Sacking him doesn't solve everything, but what I'm seeing now is slight regression, and depending on the next 3, possibly serious regression. He's got to be under some pressure, because Saturday was pitiful, the next 3 could save his season. If he's got the minerals to take us up higher he'll get reaction Saturday. I can't see it personally.

 

[jackalbion]

I think there's few thighs here going wrong at the moment... we seem to only sign "prospects" who are not ready to compete in the PL. All the signings are "for the future"... which never realises as the top players get sold/unsettled as we don't reach the heights they expect. Or the club/manager cannot have the time, energy or means to make these "prospects" better and therefore they get loaned to lesser clubs and disappear in couple of seasons. We also sign old PL greats as role models, but they are all over 34yo and prone to injuries, slowed down, etc.

We don't seem to sign anyone to make an impact here and now. Not a single PL/Top flight proven player that's strong, fast, big/tall that can take the game by the scruff of the neck.

Then there's the manager... I get that it might be very difficult to get the team playing the way he wants if the team is full of young people from all around the world with variable experience in top flight football. However... tactical naivety, poor game management and inability to adapt setting for the games and during games has cost us this season... a lot. I can't obviously comment on the morale or the atmosphere behind closed doors, but if there are disclipinary challenges in the team it's obviously not a good sign.

And don't get me started on the injuries... there's something wrong there as well... unless obviously these "injuries" are a disguise for disciplinary action?

Spot on.

 

[Seasider78]

I think there's few thighs here going wrong at the moment... we seem to only sign "prospects" who are not ready to compete in the PL. All the signings are "for the future"... which never realises as the top players get sold/unsettled as we don't reach the heights they expect. Or the club/manager cannot have the time, energy or means to make these "prospects" better and therefore they get loaned to lesser clubs and disappear in couple of seasons. We also sign old PL greats as role models, but they are all over 34yo and prone to injuries, slowed down, etc.

We don't seem to sign anyone to make an impact here and now. Not a single PL/Top flight proven player that's strong, fast, big/tall that can take the game by the scruff of the neck.

Then there's the manager... I get that it might be very difficult to get the team playing the way he wants if the team is full of young people from all around the world with variable experience in top flight football. However... tactical naivety, poor game management and inability to adapt setting for the games and during games has cost us this season... a lot. I can't obviously comment on the morale or the atmosphere behind closed doors, but if there are disclipinary challenges in the team it's obviously not a good sign.

And don't get me started on the injuries... there's something wrong there as well... unless obviously these "injuries" are a disguise for disciplinary action?

I agree with the point about the need to buy proven quality and experience alongside the young prospects and this is also what RDZ was calling for but if you have issue with that it’s Bloom and Barber and not FH.

Tactics are mentioned for the thrown away points but where is the on pitch leadership to see out games like wolves and Leicester there is only so much a manager can do from the touchline. Perhaps linked to your point about experience not being signed but would expect the on pitch players and captain to be disciplined enough to see out games from winning positions.

On the injuries maybe or is this overseas players adjusting to the more physical demands and intensity of the league.

 

[Mancgull]

If I knew Liam Rosenior was ready to come in, I'd be very tempted.

I’ve mentioned this elsewhere.
Last summer I think it was too soon for him. Assistant manager at Derby and one decent season at Hull City, albeit he was stupidly sacked then.
Off to Strasbourg where he has done well with a squad of young talented players. Spent time moulding them into a team and results have been decent.
In my opinion this is an option for the coming summer if FH doesn’t pull things around ( I don’t mean results especially although that would help, rather performances, squad harmony and better player development.)

 

[Change at Barnham]

We don't have a problem, just a load of shit injuries.
We are on course for a top ten finish despite our horrendous lack of player availability.

In Fab and the tracker we trust.