[Albion] Fab OUT

[AstroSloth]

Sorry Jack, the elephant in the room here is it wasn’t really ‘the club’ it was Tony and how he operates the finances and the transfer policy.

So what did Tony not do right in your eyes, not tearing up his policies on transfers and financial prudence to keep someone’s ego happy?

Do you really need time to tell you whether Tony was right or RDZ was, when you really think about it?

Also rumours that De Zerbi wanted Greenwood but we absolutely wouldn't get him.

 

[jackalbion]

Also rumours that De Zerbi wanted Greenwood but we absolutely wouldn't get him.

I can categorically put that rumour down as complete bullshit, this was nothing to do with his departure, seen it pop up multiple times, and its complete horseshit.

 

[UnhingedSeagull94]

We did, but he got injured (Jack)

I rate Jack, but he isn’t yet on the level of the 3 players mentioned. There needs to come a point in time where we start retaining these players who are on the cusp of being “world class”.

 

[dazzer6666]

I rate Jack, but he isn’t yet on the level of the 3 players mentioned. There needs to come a point in time where we start retaining these players who are on the cusp of being “world class”.

DeZ said Hinsh could be the new Gross

 

[Pliny the Gull]

18 months of upward trajectory under RDZ. 3 months of angst after Roma. Then new project starts
Not laying the blame at any one door. But anyway I look at it, it's very frustrating.
At the moment I'm still 50/50.
It does feel however at the moment, we keep pulling up the rose bush to see how the roots are doing.

 

[BluesRockDJ]

Was chatting to a few Everton fans and they think we're a brilliantly run club and recruitment, something they've failed on for years!.

Presumably after they stole 3 points ?

 

[UnhingedSeagull94]

DeZ said Hinsh could be the new Gross

Could be isn’t the same as a solid like for like replacement though. To lose those 3 and Gilmour was criminal.

 

[OzMike]

Gilmour twiddling his thumbs at Napoli.

 

[oldboyroy]

Presumably after they stole 3 points ?

Day before the game (night before in pub) and they certainly were expecting to get beat or at best get a draw.

 

[oldboyroy]

Brief mention of us last night on TS where studio agreed Brighton have regressed since RDZ left considering the money spent in summer!

 

[GT49er]

Brief mention of us last night on TS where studio agreed Brighton have regressed since RDZ left considering the money spent in summer!

Well, they're right. Shoe-horning six (now seven with Gomez arriving) into a team was always going to be disruptive. That's more than half a team of strangers! Exacerbated when the new players, for all that they cost, have yet to prove that they're any sort of significant upgrade on what we already had.
We also seem to be veering sharply away from our South American model - this year's players have been brought in from the UK and Europe, and most of our South Americans have been bundled out on loan, two of them (Enciso and Sarmiento) on what are increasingly looking like 'shop window' loans.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

I think the club's failure to push on further into Europe just knocked the stuffing out of RDZ. From his POV the timeline must have looked pretty much perfect:

December 23 - Win Europa League group stage
January 24 - Reinforce injury-ravaged squad
February 24 - Get new signings up to speed
March 24 - Go fully-armed into Europa League round of 16

Can sort of see why he kind of gave up when January reinforcements never arrived. Not saying it's right, but it is understandable

I don't think it is understandable, but it is explainable.

 

[kevo]

I do wonder if we could have done more to accommodate RDZ, but I guess TB isn't one to compromise. I woulda loved for him to have stayed and to see where we would be now with the new squad.

 

[Flounce]

I do wonder if we could have done more to accommodate RDZ, but I guess TB isn't one to compromise. I woulda loved for him to have stayed and to see where we would be now with the new squad.

Perhaps if RDZ had kept his sulking and kicking off in house things may have turned out differently. He effectively got himself sacked by his media actions imo

 

[Stato]

18 months of upward trajectory under RDZ. 3 months of angst after Roma. Then new project starts
Not laying the blame at any one door. But anyway I look at it, it's very frustrating.
At the moment I'm still 50/50.
It does feel however at the moment, we keep pulling up the rose bush to see how the roots are doing.

17 March 2024 when we played Roma, we were 8th in the table, 11 points off 5th, averaging 1.5 ppg with a +6 goal average.
We're currently 9th, 7 points off 5th, with a +4 goal average, averaging 1.478 ppg, so not much different from the more successful half of last season. In fact, just not conceding the penalty on Saturday would have seen us better off for points per game..

It's a solid start for a new manager and a refreshed squad. I'd be more concerned if our form hadn't improved from the rest of the season after Roma, where we took 0.67 points per game. A table showing the season's final nine games after Roma would have had us 17th.

The turnaround looks less convincing because we started off this season at a sprint and hit a wall in December. However our current season average of 1.478 ppg over a whole season would see us finish eight points better off than we did last season, only six point worse than the previous year when we qualified for Europe. Considering all of the upheaval, that seems a solid foundation. The roses may not bloom this year, but they've not got powdery mildew. (Yes, I did look up rose diseases).

 

[Forster's Armband]

Brief mention of us last night on TS where studio agreed Brighton have regressed since RDZ left considering the money spent in summer!

Classic TS. Absolutely no idea or research into what Brighton is doing. We were dogshit after Roma when RDZ had a pathetic tantrum because the club wouldn't change a transfer strategy HE SIGNED UP FOR. Then for TS to say "considering the money they spent" is a joke the profile of the players didn't change we just bought a lot of them. Under 24 not prem-ready so yes it's a development season. Regressed is a dumb and uneducated way of looking at it.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

I do wonder if we could have done more to accommodate RDZ, but I guess TB isn't one to compromise. I woulda loved for him to have stayed and to see where we would be now with the new squad.

Effectively it was all over after the disastrous Europa 1st leg match in Rome when De Zerbi very publicly criticised Tony Bloom. As Paul Barber was to later say, " we don't work like that." hey must have known from that moment it wasn't going to work.

 

[RandyWanger]

Classic TS. Absolutely no idea or research into what Brighton is doing. We were dogshit after Roma when RDZ had a pathetic tantrum because the club wouldn't change a transfer strategy HE SIGNED UP FOR. Then for TS to say "considering the money they spent" is a joke the profile of the players didn't change we just bought a lot of them. Under 24 not prem-ready so yes it's a development season. Regressed is a dumb and uneducated way of looking at it.

Talk Shite... 0 credibility and the only one who actually talks sense is a Palace fan

 

[Greg Bobkin]

I think the club's failure to push on further into Europe just knocked the stuffing out of RDZ. From his POV the timeline must have looked pretty much perfect:

December 23 - Win Europa League group stage
January 24 - Reinforce injury-ravaged squad
February 24 - Get new signings up to speed
March 24 - Go fully-armed into Europa League round of 16

Can sort of see why he kind of gave up when January reinforcements never arrived. Not saying it's right, but it is understandable

Maybe, but that's just unprofessional. Managers should work as hard as they can with what they've got. If a couple of players arrived in January and their either got injured or didn't hit the ground running, he would be in the same situation that he was.

I too, get that it is understandable to a degree – especially with a character such as RDZ – but that reaction is never going to play out well with the hierarchy of the club.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Classic TS. Absolutely no idea or research into what Brighton is doing. We were dogshit after Roma when RDZ had a pathetic tantrum because the club wouldn't change a transfer strategy HE SIGNED UP FOR. Then for TS to say "considering the money they spent" is a joke the profile of the players didn't change we just bought a lot of them. Under 24 not prem-ready so yes it's a development season. Regressed is a dumb and uneducated way of looking at it.

Exactly.