It can't be another bloke nobody has heard of.
Has to be Pards.
Or Suey.
Or Harry Redders.
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[Albion] Fab - In/Out poll
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Has to be Pards.
Or Suey.
Or Harry Redders.
Yes he did although I doubt he had a clue what was going on.
Noticeable in the latest one in fact that only one starting player took part.
Too many threads on the same theme. I don't mind people wanting Fab out. I really don't. But it is just attention seeking twattery to start a new thread on it when there are three other new threads on it started on the same day. Just call him a soppy American **** with weird hair transplant on the matchday thread. It ain't rocket science.I don't really get the need for many (not all but seen it a lot) of the IN camp to be using such unnecessary name calling just because someone has a different opinion to you. You may not understand it, you may disagree in the strongest of terms but when you start throwing insults about it just gets a bit playground and you lose any moral high ground you think you have.
It's like the number of people that keep on using the term 'entitled' to demean fans with a different opinion and give the impression that they are a lesser or newer fan and therefore their opinion doesn't matter. Surely that is the definition of entitlement? I've been going to watch the Albion since I was 7 in the mid 90's, but I haven't bought in to Fab from the start and have seen nothing to suggest I'm wrong. You may disagree with that opinion and I respect your right to think I'm completely clueless but if you can't disagree without insult then why post on a forum that will be full of varied opinion? Just a thought
So I have every right to say: dry thy knickers and make us a cup of f***ing tea.
Sorry but I didn't read your second paragraph.
supaseagull
Well-known member
Sack him- it’s impossible to get a song to fit his name
I don't think I am quite in 'I want him out now' territory, but I do think people airing their concerns is justified, and the unwaivering support is a bit weird tbh given what we've seen so far.
The awful home draws, the gutless performance in the schooling at home to Palace, the Wolves/Leicester debacles, players we know are 'world class' playing like shit, numerous players getting their agents to run off to the papers to stir shit about them getting transferred, no identifiable style of play... and you get told to 'f*** off and support Liverpool' for questioning the manager?
I'll happily take this being bounced in a few years as a 'Fergie moment', but I cannot see it happening. I am starting to think Hurzeler is a Hyypia-esque f***-up, actually.
The awful home draws, the gutless performance in the schooling at home to Palace, the Wolves/Leicester debacles, players we know are 'world class' playing like shit, numerous players getting their agents to run off to the papers to stir shit about them getting transferred, no identifiable style of play... and you get told to 'f*** off and support Liverpool' for questioning the manager?
I'll happily take this being bounced in a few years as a 'Fergie moment', but I cannot see it happening. I am starting to think Hurzeler is a Hyypia-esque f***-up, actually.
Hurzeler the new Hyypia? We'll see - but as always, it could be the players, not the manager. We started the new season well. just with our existing players (but with just Minteh instead of Adingra). Since then, we've tried introducing the other five. Then we hit six 'easy' games..........
This is what I don't have an answer to: is it the players just not performing for whatever reason, or is it the manager not commanding their respect, not playing to their strengths, whatever it may be.
Everything is indicating this is more than a 'blip' to me, but time will tell. I do think being told to 'f*** off and support Liverpool' (by someone that clearly doesn't invest their time and money in going to games at that) for questioning what's playing out isn't particularly constructive or befitting for a 'discussion forum'.
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Frankworthington
Well-known member
At last the voice of reason
oldboyroy
Well-known member
Good post and probably where I am with your last paragraph. Time will tell obviously but yes, there are early signs that Fab is struggling with knowhow in a tough Premier league compared to what he's done before.
- Oct 20, 2022
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“Supporting” our manager and players and ‘constructive criticism’ when there are areas for improvement are two separate things.
It’s not mutually exclusive - you can still get right behind the team/manager and continue to wholeheartedly support them as a fan without being blind to bad performances and voicing criticism (imo!)
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
We all support the club regardless if we are in league 2, league 1 that won’t change.
Although I’m not giving a manager or players I don’t rate unwavering support.
People don't necessarily disagree, its just that the extreme lack of patience and the overall good amount of points makes the patient people a little bit annoyed by the panicky people. And certainly vice versa.
In recently saw an interview with Hyypiä where he said he was basically f***ed over and stabbed in the back by some (as I understood it) other coaching staff member who might have wanted the gig himself. No names mentioned and I don't have a clue who he had as his assistants etc. but found it interesting to hear.He’s going nowhere but I am getting a Hyypia with much better players vibe recently. But who knows, Hyypia with players more suited to his style may have done OKHyypia was dealt a bum hand on players.
Given that Samis only successfull spell in his manager career was 6-12 months of good Leverkusen results, he likely wasn't... great.
Has he already gone? 
Have I missed the pre-match presser for Villa or did the post-Brentford one serve a dual purpose?
Have I missed the pre-match presser for Villa or did the post-Brentford one serve a dual purpose?
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
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All I hope is that the Assistant Manager coming in January will help FH turn it around.
- Oct 20, 2022
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different point - you are talking about the Club, of course everyone one of us supports the Club but we are talking about supporting the manager and players on this thread while they are assigned to us.
I think many of us just have a different idea of the meaning of ’supporting’ the manager and players.
In my book threads suggesting that we bin off the manager and certain players doesn’t constitute ‘support’ however justified you think that position is.
attila
1997 Club
Fickledom is the enemy of football happiness.
He either means Nathan Jones or possibly Sammy Lee who was supposed to be assistant but bailed at the last minute. He was undoubtedly stabbed in the front by the useless David Burke who gave him cheap, shit players who were totally unsuited to Samiball. The metaphor loses sharpness (see what I did there?) when we consider Sami fell on his own sword. He wasn’t sacked.
There is certainly a parallel to today in many ways. Sami came in after the chaos surrounding Poyet’s departure, a coach who also challenged TB’s recruitment, followed by the utterly apathetic Oscar. And we don’t really have the players for our new calm yes-man’s style, especially in defence.
You're never going to convince me that a manager who says "no" to all of Tony's ideas is in the best interest of this club and its future success, so we can just skip that part.
What I do wonder is why you think Hurz is a "yes man"? Personally have no goddamn clue if he's a "yes", "maybe" or "no"-man.