[Albion] Evan Ferguson **Loaned to West Ham 03/02/2025**

[Greavsey]

I was annoyed about this loan at first but meh.

It makes sense for him to go out on loan in a team that will use him and our season is effectively over.

Hopefully Ferguson will be reignited in our team and competing with Tzimas under a new manager next season.

I'm still annoyed by it, because when Fergie came on on Saturday he looked like he'd lost a bit of bulk, and had some of his old zip about him. Looked much quicker and aggressive to compete for the ball. On that basis I am baffled why we don't think he would be a good option to challenge Welbz for a place for the rest of the season.

With Tzimas coming in, and Welbeck with another contracted year I can't see Ferguson ever playing for us again. He either excels and gets a big money move, or struggles and ends up on loan in the Championship next season.

 

[Beanstalk]

Agreed. Looking at these, you'd maybe predict a defeat but never a thrasing. Forest were great at creating clear-cut chances (unlike us!) and pretty clinical, as they have been all season. The score is better reflected in the xG - 3.23 v 0.8.
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I agree with you in the first half where we went in to the break with an xG score of 1.32 - 0.59. Watching on the tele, it did feel as though things just weren't going our way. It was, for all the anger about the formation, a fairly even half goals aside. The fact we conceded 4 goals and 3.75 xG in the second half kind of implies that we were utterly dog shite and completely deserved to get spanked around by Forest in the end. A shambles of a collapse in the second 45.

Note: Using understat's revised xG model

 

[oldboyroy]

I really don't consider myself Team Fab - he's been decent by my standards but certainly has room for improvement - but every new post I read talking confidently about the new manager we'll supposedly have come the summer makes me just that bit more partisan.

I'd say I hope we qualify for Europe so that the Fab Out crew have to eat their words (and of course because it would be brilliant for the club). But they'd probably dismiss the performances that got us there as unconvincing and keep harping on about the points we dropped ("we could have finished even higher if not for the Wolves and Leicester games FFS") as though the bar is an Invincibles season.

I also want Fab to do well(like every other manager/coach we have). I hope he turns last 2 performances round starting with beating Chelsea in both matches which will quieten down the angst against him. 1 things for sure, he'll get the support from above but it's also down to him to get any player (rumoured) rifts back onside.

 

[Beanstalk]

I really don't consider myself Team Fab - he's been decent by my standards but certainly has room for improvement - but every new post I read talking confidently about the new manager we'll supposedly have come the summer makes me just that bit more partisan.

I'd say I hope we qualify for Europe so that the Fab Out crew have to eat their words (and of course because it would be brilliant for the club). But they'd probably dismiss the performances that got us there as unconvincing and keep harping on about the points we dropped ("we could have finished even higher if not for the Wolves and Leicester games FFS") as though the bar is an Invincibles season.

Plenty did this for RDZ when we finished poorly last season (as in rewrote the first 18 months as "lucky" and that the last 3 were the reality).

FH is going to need a miracle to turn some people's heads.

 

[SeagullinExile]

Can't we just get rid of our s**t manager and keep our clearly talented young striker?

 

[SeagullinExile]

I think Bloom has risked it and will give him time.

You don’t hire a young inexperienced manager, then fire him after 24 league games with 34 points on the board.

So yours and others talk of him being fired - it’s not going to happen, Tony has taken a gamble, I dare say it might be going better than he actually expected.

At last. Someone with some f***ing sense.

All you bed wetters can lick my gooch.

 

[Hiheidi]

I'm still annoyed by it, because when Fergie came on on Saturday he looked like he'd lost a bit of bulk, and had some of his old zip about him. Looked much quicker and aggressive to compete for the ball. On that basis I am baffled why we don't think he would be a good option to challenge Welbz for a place for the rest of the season.

He certainly didn't look like someone that had been out injured for a month.

 

[Blue3]

It was definitely a bloody weird game. Don't think I've ever seen a game where the 7/8//9-0 losing team had more possession and so many shots. The stats looked more like a 1 or 2-0

Watching the highlights Lampity looks completely over run and Mitoma was offering him no support plus Pedro several times appears to just give up chasing back I gave up watching at 4-0 at which point Forest were out of sight so have only seen the last 3 goals via highlights

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

FH poached by Bayern?!!! I can’t imagine a club like that even think he has the talent to sweep the mud off the dressing room floor.

They took Vincent Kompany after he got Burnley relegated so who knows (plus he’s a graduate of their academy so he’s already swept their dressing rooms quite a few times i’d imagine).

 

[JBizzle]

At last. Someone with some f***ing sense.

All you bed wetters can lick my gooch.

There are some people who like the importance they think they get from being anti-Hurzeler. Win a few games, they'll shut up or say it's "lucky", lose a few and they start another 3 or 4 "Fab Out" threads.

Supporting the team is easy as hell when we're beating City, Newcastle and Man United. The test is when we're not so good. These folk stay quiet when we win and are neggy as they can be when we don't. They'll dress it up as "wanting the best for the team", of course but, let's be honest, they seem to enjoy it.

Each to their own, I guess

 

[jackalbion]

There are some people who like the importance they think they get from being anti-Hurzeler. Win a few games, they'll shut up or say it's "lucky", lose a few and they start another 3 or 4 "Feb Out" threads.

Supporting the team is easy as hell when we're beating City, Newcastle and Man United. The test is when we're not so good. These folk stay quiet when we win and are neggy as they can be when we don't. They'll dress it up as "wanting the best for the team", of course but, let's be honest, they seem to enjoy it.

Each to their own, I guess

I certainly don't enjoy it when we lose 7-0, I've supported Huerzler for most of the season, I'm just not seeing anything that is beneficial if we keep him.

 

[Washie]

Every season as in the first time since 1958?

Last season was a 6-1, and an utter humiliation by Luton (a 4-0 felt like a 7-0 based on their squad)

 

[Washie]

I certainly don't enjoy it when we lose 7-0, I've supported Huerzler for most of the season, I'm just not seeing anything that is beneficial if we keep him.

I don't see a good manager who would leave their club to come to us mid-season.

 

[jackalbion]

Last season was a 6-1, and an utter humiliation by Luton (a 4-0 felt like a 7-0 based on their squad)

But it wasn't 7-0, it was 4-0, lets not re-write history. We then came back from that and beat our biggest rivals 4-1, lets see what happens next week.

 

[jackalbion]

I don't see a good manager who would leave their club to come to us mid-season.

I think this is a good argument, but if we don't win any of the next three, I'm struggling to see how anyone can do worse.

 

[SeagullinExile]

There are some people who like the importance they think they get from being anti-Hurzeler. Win a few games, they'll shut up or say it's "lucky", lose a few and they start another 3 or 4 "Feb Out" threads.

Supporting the team is easy as hell when we're beating City, Newcastle and Man United. The test is when we're not so good. These folk stay quiet when we win and are neggy as they can be when we don't. They'll dress it up as "wanting the best for the team", of course but, let's be honest, they seem to enjoy it.

Each to their own, I guess

Well said sir.

 

[JBizzle]

I certainly don't enjoy it when we lose 7-0, I've supported Huerzler for most of the season, I'm just not seeing anything that is beneficial if we keep him.

I wasn't thinking about you, Jack. It's the people who've had the knives out since he was announced because they though McKenna was the one. They never got past him being 2nd choice and as a result, have never really got behind him

 

[dwayne]

I think this is a good argument, but if we don't win any of the next three, I'm struggling to see how anyone can do worse.

But harsh. It's really about winning the one (Vs saints). Chelsea should be expected to beat us .... But obviously we should be giving them a good game

 

[GT49er]

At last. Someone with some f***ing sense.

All you bed wetters can lick my gooch.

If you can't think of a more meaningful contribution than shouting 'bed wetters' you might as well not bother. Just bad-mouthing people who disagree with your personal opinion isn't a great look.

 

[jackalbion]

I wasn't thinking about you, Jack. It's the people who've had the knives out since he was announced because they though McKenna was the one. They never got past him being 2nd choice and as a result, have never really got behind him

Yeah fair enough, I just don't think the thinking he's done his time is much of an outlier opinion. I do think some people never gave him a chance, maybe they'll be proved right, but I do think a lot of undue frustration is aimed at FH, rather than club planning etc.