[Football] England v Brazil

[Weststander]

Why are you going back to that season? You were talking about the world class midfield at his disposal when he/we went on a great run and finished 9th.

We wouldn’t be in the top ten and last 16 of Europa etc without Potter’s work before RDZ.

RDZ couldn’t believe his luck to inherit what Potter built.

Or which Team Tony Bloom built, including Potter?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Why are you going back to that season?

Because you talked about those players being developed.

 

[tstanbur]

Because you talked about those players being developed.

I meant at the point Potter had the “world class” midfield to choose from, it was largely down to him and his work.

He wasn’t just “given” that midfield, he created it and the system where it thrived, particularly developing MacAllister and Bissouma over a couple of seasons prior.

 

[tstanbur]

Or which Team Tony Bloom built, including Potter?

Maybe. But then the same applies to RDZ.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I meant at the point Potter had the “world class” midfield to choose from, it was largely down to him and his work.

He wasn’t just “given” that midfield, he created it and the system where it thrived, particularly developing MacAllister and Bissouma over a couple of seasons prior.

Yep, he created a great midfield with the exception of Caicedo who he never played, at the expense of season ticket holders seeing any wins at home.

 

[tstanbur]

Yep, he created a great midfield with the exception of Caicedo who he never played, at the expense of season ticket holders seeing any wins at home.

Yes he brought in Caicedo too late and that run did coincide with him being in the team. However if it was just about Caicedo being so good then why didn’t he have the same effect at Chelsea?

Did you not enjoy those final games as you were still blaming Potter for the poor run(s) before ?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Yes he brought in Caicedo too late and that run did coincide with him being in the team. However if it was just about Caicedo being so good then why didn’t he have the same effect at Chelsea?

Did you not enjoy those final games as you were still blaming Potter for the poor run(s) before ?

I enjoy every win Brighton get.

Doesn’t mean I want the snake back anywhere near our club.

 

[Flounce]

I don’t want him back and would be disappointed if it was the case.

Same, I was a big fan, gutted when he left but no way do I want him back here. Same goes for Bruno and all the others who went with him

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I don’t believe Potter is superior or equal to RDZ.

I do believe he was/is an excellent manager and transformed us during his time.

He doesn’t get anywhere near the amount of credit he deserves from some people on here.

Perhaps due to the manner in which he left, at the time he left us and the ensuing trail of hangers-on who followed. Potter besmirched his up until then rising Albion reputation and nothing will change that.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I meant at the point Potter had the “world class” midfield to choose from, it was largely down to him and his work.

He wasn’t just “given” that midfield, he created it and the system where it thrived, particularly developing MacAllister and Bissouma over a couple of seasons prior.

Hold on now, Potter was and is many things but he's no Bielsa!

 

[veuve]

The only loyalty in football is the supporters,I appreciate what potter did changing our style for the better but I would never welcome him back.And the back room staff who followed him can f*** off ,your not welcomed at Brighton .disloyal money chasing ccc nts

 

[Flounce]

Hold on now, Potter was and is many things but he's no Bielsa!

True, given the number of injuries we have got under RDZ, his demands on the players are more like Bielsa than Potters were. We are constantly being told how knackered and overplayed the players are by RDZ. @dwayne is probably right on his Bielsa comparisons imo

 

[Thunder Bolt]

True, given the number of injuries we have got under RDZ, his demands on the players are more like Bielsa than Potters were. We are constantly being told how knackered and overplayed the players are by RDZ. @dwayne is probably right on his Bielsa comparisons imo

We have played more games this season, plus there is no evidence the tactics nor training methods have caused or exacerbated injuries.
On the other hand, there are rumours about our medical staff.

 

[Zeberdi]

We have played more games this season, plus there is no evidence the tactics nor training methods have caused or exacerbated injuries.
On the other hand, there are rumours about our medical staff.

I also remember McAllister saying RDZ’s training sessions were less physical than Potter’s and focussed more on tactics - that may have changed of course.

 

[NorthstandRacoon]

This constant chat of Potter is so annoying. He is FINISHED with us, the fact some of our fans would take him back just shows how weak we are at times. FFS get a grip and understand how much he screwed us over.

 

[Milano]

How the hell has YET ANOTHER thread been taken down the rat hole of Potter? Pack it in.

Back on topic, I'd expect our captain to get another chance on Tuesday, just glad Lukaku is injured! Dunk was MOM v Scotland, Maguire was shit, as he was on Saturday too. It's meaningless anyway with that clown in charge. Conor f***ing Gallagher in an England shirt? He's the 2024 version of Carlton Palmer.

 

[GJN1]

Southgate being the clown

Henderson recalled to the starting 11

Just depressed about the whole thing, he's wasted/wasting an unreal squad

Our squad depth is the best in the world I imagine

Imagine what a Guardiola, a Klopp or even a Bobby De Zerbi could do with that squad?

 

[Weststander]

This constant chat of Potter is so annoying. He is FINISHED with us, the fact some of our fans would take him back just shows how weak we are at times. FFS get a grip and understand how much he screwed us over.

People talk as if the pool of potential Albion managers is Potter. Thankfully Starlizard’s analysis is slightly more sophisticated.

 

[Dave the OAP]

Definitely got the ball rolling … we climbed the PL, he developed raw talent into gems, at last we played good football.

But when he was laughed at for months on end during his Chavs stint, other than @Swans’ I can’t remember many defending him.

Then in recent weeks, strange timing imho, he’s getting rave reviews here, many hoping TB hires him again. It can’t be a coincidence that quite a few people are slagging off RDZ for daring to mention the squad strengthening he sought and didn’t get. Having to fight on two competition fronts, with a first team clearly inferior to that of April 2022 to May 2023 and a stack of key injuries. These posters I would imagine are preparing to overtly blame RDZ for a whole load of stuff when he moves on.

As similar to the rewriting of history about Gus who many of the “ experts” on here still don’t acknowledge the fact that he transformed our little seaside habitual underachievers and yo yo side into a foundation where hughton and potter could develop the side we have now

 

[Greavsey]

Imagine what a Guardiola, a Klopp or even a Bobby De Zerbi could do with that squad

Yep agreed, in theory I think you're right. But for how many years have we seen England managers not getting the best out of star players? In my memory going back to Hoddle.

A lot of it I think has to do with the motivation of players in "meaningless" friendlies. Whatever international window in the season there always seems to be conflicting priorities at club level, but especially this one in March when you have Arse, Liverpool and Man City all chasing the title. Can't see their managers telling them to give 100% for England... interestingly Gary Neville said on a podcast last week that Alex Ferguson used to hate the March internationals and always withdrew his best players and allowed peripheral players like Wes Brown, Phil Neville etc to go as a compromise.

Just to add to the drama - I do think G Potter would make a good England manager, but I do think it's quite an unenviable position.