England squad announced for the Euros

[WhingForPresident]

Draw with Russia and a draw with Wales to leave us needing to beat Slovakia to go through the group in second, you heard it here first.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

What has Barkley done this season?

Plus what would he bring differently to the rest of the AM?

Townsend can change a game and is something different

 

[boik]

Oh FFS - Rooney

Everyone loves a comedian. Or are you serious?

 

[Easy 10]

Of course, technically, that is what HALF of the teams in every tournament do. Obviously.

This England team IS a little different, to previous ones, I feel. They'll go for it, and at least give themselves a CHANCE against a good side, rather than playing within themselves, and going out 1-0.

We'll see. My point is, plenty of other teams do manage to knock out one of the "big boys" along the way, even if they ultimately fail themselves, which of course all but one will. Since beating Spain on pens in 1996, when we've actually got out of the group, we have then been knocked out by:

1998 - Argentina
2002 - Brazil
2004 - Portugal
2006 - Portugal
2010 - Germany
2012 - Italy

So The only team we have actually BEATEN "recently" in a knockout game is Denmark, back in 2002. You could go back to 1990, when we got past Belgium and Cameroon, or 1986 when we got past Paraguay. But we are shockingly poor once the pressure of a knockout game is on. Other than fluking past Spain in 96, we've not sent anyone of any note home in leaving memory.

God, I've just depressed myself.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Draw with Russia and a draw with Wales to leave us needing to beat Slovakia to go through the group in second, you heard it here first.

Slovakia are BETTER than Wales or Russia.

 

[Easy 10]

Draw with Russia and a draw with Wales to leave us needing to beat Slovakia to go through the group in second, you heard it here first.

I think the top 3 qualify from each group, minus 2 "worst" 3rd placed teams, so 3rd should in all probability be enough.

Its actually very hard NOT to get out of the groups this year. 16 from 24 go through to the knockouts.

 

[Sheebo]

I think Drinkwater is a good player but at times he looks like a pub Sunday footballer chasing after a fast player. Am I being too harsh there?

Barkley has bags of potential and is one for the future so don't get people wanting him ommited. It's a tough call for any of the 3 to miss out but let's get behind Roy & the lads he's gone with eh?

 

[maltaseagull]

Townsend over Barkley for me too, possibly would have omitted Rashford as well on the basis of it's a bit soon and one goal against Australia a good striker does not make (eh Jeffers?).

Also, Lallana is poo.

Lallana has played well for Liverpool since Klopp took over. He is good given a free role but, Roy will never give him that and so shouldn't have picked him.
I am not sure if Wilshere is match fit either. We have seen the problems caused picking unfit players before.

 

[Sheebo]

That's the thing. The current squad in the main are young kids who don't know their place or their supposed limitations. Unlike the pure ponce Golden Generation or whatever they were called who swanned around like they owned the place. Reckon this will be a triumph of youth over experience. They may not win the tournament but they'll die trying and give the fans some proper thrills and spills along the way.

I think you could say there was an element of this at the last World Cup. The youthfulness gave me hope anyway and we were very unlucky to lose the 2 games we did.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Brighton fan with Scousophobia? No, Shirley not!

No, no scousophobia here.

It's more a comment on the fact that players who play for certain clubs are FAR more likely to be picked for England, no matter what their form, or limitations may be.

So, no end of Liverpool players, Wilshire from Arsenal etc.

Whereas Townsend, Drinkwater etc. never stood a chance.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

No, no scousophobia here.

It's more a comment on the fact that players who play for certain clubs are FAR more likely to be picked for England, no matter what their form, or limitations may be.

So, no end of Liverpool players, Wilshire from Arsenal etc.

Whereas Townsend, Drinkwater etc. never stood a chance.

Whilst there absolutely IS an element of this about every England squad selection, ever (would wonderkid Rashford be in there if he'd scored 5 goals in 12 games for West Brom?), I think your examples are wrong. Wilshere is head and shoulders (and knees and toes) ahead of Drinkwater, in every single facet of play. You have to take the risk. Wilshere / Dier / Alli is potentially England's best midfield in 20 years.

Townsend runs fast. Massively limited. If he went, he wouldn't get a game. All of England's width will come from the four inter-changeable attacking full backs.

 

[Pavilionaire]

One of the worst England squads for many a year.

Only taking three centre backs is a mistake as is the omission of Townsend who can get you a goal or make a goal.

Lallana has done nothing for England in his 22 caps, Sturridge is a crock, an excuse waiting to happen. And I haven't even mentioned Milner.

We've just got to hope and pray Rooney gets his sh1t together and Kane stays fit.

 

[Silverhatch]

Should have taken Drinkwater over the average Henderson

Not taking Drinkwater probably means Vardy will not play down the middle. Drinkwater has a telepathic understanding with Vardy and Roy has made a huge gaff not taking DD over two midfielders who have both been injured, one for the WHOLE season.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Everyone loves a comedian. Or are you serious?

Rooney has been pretty much useless in an England shirt for any serious game since South Africa - he shouldn't be even allowed to wear the shirt anymore.

 

[Albumen]

Milner had a very good season. Perfect utility player, great at crossing, he's better under Klopp. Drinkwater should have got the nod over Wilshire. I've no real other qualms, Townsend is hit and hope and Henderson is a better player than some people on here make out.
For me it's the best squad I've seen since 1996. For the first time in 20 years I'm excited by England, theres a great balance of youth and experience. If we can shield our defence enough (hence Drinkwater if Dier gets injured), we've the firepower to be watchable.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Whilst there absolutely IS an element of this about every England squad selection, ever (would wonderkid Rashford be in there if he'd scored 5 goals in 12 games for West Brom?), I think your examples are wrong. Wilshere is head and shoulders (and knees and toes) ahead of Drinkwater, in every single facet of play. You have to take the risk. Wilshere / Dier / Alli is potentially England's best midfield in 20 years.

Townsend runs fast. Massively limited. If he went, he wouldn't get a game. All of England's width will come from the four inter-changeable attacking full backs.

A lot of truth in what you say. I think Wilshere has been brilliant when he plays for England, but he has barely played for Arsenal this season. If he didn't play for one of the big clubs, he wouldn't be going, but I'm glad he is.

My point was more about the Liverpool players, who are lucky to be in the squad in my opinion.

Townsend? Runs fast AND scores 30 yarders. He has been excellent for Newcastle in the last quarter of the season. I think he would add something different, maybe be the 'impact sub' that everyone has always banged on about Lua Lua being for us.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Yet again, we read the hilarious mocking of a disability. A speech impediment is a minor disability, agreed, but does it deserve to be mocked?

Don't bother answering.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Rooney has been pretty much useless in an England shirt for any serious game since South Africa - he shouldn't be even allowed to where the shirt anymore.

Actually, he has been useless since 2004, when we all thought we had a World beater on our hands.

I wish he wasn't going.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Oh FFS - Rooney

Yes.

Everyone loves a comedian. Or are you serious?

Man U fan?

Rooney has been pretty much useless in an England shirt for any serious game since South Africa - he shouldn't be even allowed to where the shirt anymore.

This.

Actually, he has been useless since 2004, when we all thought we had a World beater on our hands.

I wish he wasn't going.

And this.

Although he's often brilliant in a friendly or against the big boys like San Marino or Luxembourg.

Sent from the boot of Lingard

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

There doesn't seem to be much love for Wilshere. He is, in my opinion, an excellent player and the best we have in his position. If fit, he'll start.