As an aside, on the subject of German citizenship, I've established I could become a bona-fide, single passport carrying German within 5 years. Could be an interesting journey.
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England national team farce - Wes Brown joins Robbo
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As an aside, on the subject of German citizenship, I've established I could become a bona-fide, single passport carrying German within 5 years. Could be an interesting journey.
Northstander
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- Oct 13, 2003
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1966, that's 43 years without winning f*** all, that's one time less than Uruguay!
What the f*** makes us think we have the right to be on a pedestal as a footballing nation?
The premiership is over-run with imported players as managers strive for director and fan driven immediate success!
The English players the premiership top teams do want and that can play at a decent level by portraying some sort of football brain, expect to be paid money that someone worthwhile like a brain surgeon may not even be paid!!
In England we are developing the future by getting 10 year old kids to play football on an 11 a side pitch and getting stuck in with that English passion rather than playing a 4 a side game where the key is passing rather. Instead its better to lob the ball up to the striker at the other end of the pitch and beat a 10 year old goalkeeper between the full size sticks!
Its all so ridiculous it is actually funny!!
What the f*** makes us think we have the right to be on a pedestal as a footballing nation?
The premiership is over-run with imported players as managers strive for director and fan driven immediate success!
The English players the premiership top teams do want and that can play at a decent level by portraying some sort of football brain, expect to be paid money that someone worthwhile like a brain surgeon may not even be paid!!
In England we are developing the future by getting 10 year old kids to play football on an 11 a side pitch and getting stuck in with that English passion rather than playing a 4 a side game where the key is passing rather. Instead its better to lob the ball up to the striker at the other end of the pitch and beat a 10 year old goalkeeper between the full size sticks!
Its all so ridiculous it is actually funny!!
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Northstander
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Ninja Elephant
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The only Premier League manager interested in developing young English talent, today resigned from Aston Villa.
Ashley Young, Gabriel Agbonlahor and James Milner all owe their future England careers to O'Neill. Agbonlahor was offered to Championship clubs, but none of them wanted him! Then O'Neill gave him his chance. Young was looking promising but in a doomed Watford team, until O'Neill picked him up. Luke Young, even, was nowhere near the England team before O'Neill signed him for Villa. Gareth Barry got back into the England set up playing for O'Neill aswell. But he's gone now, so the English element to Aston Villa will go with him.
Ashley Young, Gabriel Agbonlahor and James Milner all owe their future England careers to O'Neill. Agbonlahor was offered to Championship clubs, but none of them wanted him! Then O'Neill gave him his chance. Young was looking promising but in a doomed Watford team, until O'Neill picked him up. Luke Young, even, was nowhere near the England team before O'Neill signed him for Villa. Gareth Barry got back into the England set up playing for O'Neill aswell. But he's gone now, so the English element to Aston Villa will go with him.
Northstander
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The ONE thing I hope is the new squad members ie: Bobby, Jack Wilshere and Kieran Gibbs have good game and perform!
Ninja Elephant
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I'm not sure why everyone is raving about Kieran Gibbs. He doesn't look close to getting in the Arsenal team, everyone talks about him as being a bit of a wonderkid, but I don't see it yet. He needs to start playing games, this season. Arsenal is the right club for young foreigners, the wrong club for young English ones...
Desperation?
Cheeky Monkey
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Don't know how much tickets are for this friendly, but who the heck would stump up for them? Fans should vote with their feet - 90 thousand empty seats and Capello and his overpaid primadonnas can pay all the stadium expenses for the match out of their own pockets.
The Spanish
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who will stump up for them? a fair few are the same people who lap up skys distortion of our game and traditions and helped us get to this point. 80 000 for a friendly against hungary as the entire England set up falls apart, and the honour of playing for your national side is treated with absolute contempt by top level english footballers and their managers.
i dont know whether its amazing or tragic. all i know is we are at a point with our national squad where it is now going to be very difficult to recover it.
Mendoza
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Capello has said the starting 11 will be players that were in the 23 man World Cup squad.
This will mean that those players will be booed, and the newbies like Zamora, Wilshire and co can come on once the crowd have got over booing the starting 11.
Well played Fabio
This will mean that those players will be booed, and the newbies like Zamora, Wilshire and co can come on once the crowd have got over booing the starting 11.
Well played Fabio
Uncle Buck
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Whatever, it does not alter the fact England are f**king useless. Besides, this argument only holds for the past few years. There are still another 40 odd years when England were equally useless and the Germans were successful and, um, more German.
Folk are slowly coming round to my way of thinking about England, when the critical mass is reached and things change you'll thank me
England were a disgrace, but I do also get bored with the 'experts' saying we should follow the German model, when in fact aside from about 3 decentish young players, the Germans have nicked their players from other nations.
Uncle Buck
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Luke Young player for England, under Sven, when at Charlton.
Mendoza
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Which starting England player is going to get the biggest booing in the first half?
Hart
A Cole
Dawson
Terry
G Johnson
Barry
Gerrard
Lampard
Milner
Rooney
Who will be the unlucky player that has to start with the World Cup squad players and get booed alongside them?
Hart
A Cole
Dawson
Terry
G Johnson
Barry
Gerrard
Lampard
Milner
Rooney
Who will be the unlucky player that has to start with the World Cup squad players and get booed alongside them?
I think the German model 'experts' are referring to is the spotting and nurturing of talent within the Bundesliga grass roots program.
Besides, I think too much is being made of this. Cacau fair enough, and the 'polish' players are a bit of a special case given various border and displacement issues.
...and at the end of the day even if the German's had 11 martians playing for them it has no bearing on the fact England are pants.
