Early contender for Sussex w***ker of the year

[Clothes Peg]

Buzzer, I see the cases that go into court. Many a drug dealer has been caught for not having tax displayed or having his number plate investigated for no insurance.

My parents got their stolen trailer back after the police stopped the drivers as they were suspicious of the mis match number plates. The drivers had also been previously banned and linked to more serious crimes such as burglary and drug offences.

 

[Collar Feeler]

Not a pop at you Buzzer but of the dozens and dozens of drink drivers and disqualified drivers I have personally caught, the vast majority were initially pulled over for a minor road traffic offence. Since I am not a traffic cop they normally would have ended up with a verbal warning or advice but obviously you do a check or smell the booze and they get nicked. Any suggestion that motorists are a cash cow may well be true for the government but has no bearing on coppers like me stopping motorists when i see them commiting an offence, I couldn't give a toss about whether they get a ticket or not i don;t see any of the money so there certainly is no incentive for me to issue tickets like confetti. Neither am I measured or targetted on how many tickets I issue, if I issue none in a month or 100 it makes no odds to my bosses since they are not detectable crimes. In fact if I ever did issue a 100 they would be pretty pissed off since i clearly wouldn't be out trying to solve crimes.

At the end of the day If I see someone commiting a road traffic offence it is my duty to deal with it unless I have something more pressing and urgent to deal with such as being enroute to deal with a more serious crime. Like it nor not this is usually the reason I have to ignore some motorists and cyclists when i see them on their phone or going through a red light, it's called prioritising. Of course there are lazy fuckwitted coppers out there too who simply can't be arsed but you get them in every job and the police is no different.

Also there seems to be some confusion for some in this thread about the distinction between a road traffic offence and a crime, the two are not the same thing although clearly there are occasions when a serious traffic offence becomes a crime by its very nature.

I don't expect people to like what i have to say or agree with anything, i appreciate there are people out there for whatever reasons have a dislike of the police, that's fine i can deal with that and I do every day but if you are in it for the right reasons its a great job, i love it.

 

[Collar Feeler]

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[Buzzer]

My parents got their stolen trailer back after the police stopped the drivers as they were suspicious of the mis match number plates. The drivers had also been previously banned and linked to more serious crimes such as burglary and drug offences.

...dodgy plates on a car is a good indication that someone's up to no good and deserves further attention. That's not my point. It's the disproportionate approach that's taken.

Quite often, searching a house for drugs leads to stolen goods turning up - are you justifying greater use of random searches of houses? If not, why not?

Also, once again you're missing the point. Why are motorists FINED disproportionately? I can cause all sorts of mayhem and be fairly sure the police won't take too much action - a motorist can be fairly certain that if he's pulled over for something then he'll get fined and/or points.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

CF, the two officers I mentioned earlier on were not en route to another emergency,or prioritising anyhing apart from which of the passing girls had the best tits. they were sat on their fat arses having a natter, and when |I asked them to sort out the problem they were rude and unhelpful because I had disturbed them.

Like I say, it must be difficult to focus on sorting out boring little crimes as well as the more interesting jobs. Just an observation like.

That said, I am sure they are in the minority of cops, and I certainly would not want to do your job.

 

[Simster]

Come on Einstein. Explain yourself. Which bit is stupid?

None of it. But you should never ever expect anything resembling an apology from Frank so don't bother asking him to explain himself. He's never wrong, even when he's opened his unpleasant, boring gob in a midst of a heated rant. Dont forget, this is the man who went on a Coventry board and told them that Hitler got it right when he carpet bombed the place (killing over a thousand people) - because they had the temerity to suggest that Brighton away was a crap FA Cup draw for them.

 

[Collar Feeler]

CF, the two officers I mentioned earlier on were not en route to another emergency,or prioritising anyhing apart from which of the passing girls had the best tits. they were sat on their fat arses having a natter, and when |I asked them to sort out the problem they were rude and unhelpful because I had disturbed them.

Like I say, it must be difficult to focus on sorting out boring little crimes as well as the more interesting jobs. Just an observation like.

That said, I am sure they are in the minority of cops, and I certainly would not want to do your job.

They seem to fall into the lazy fuckwit category by the sounds of your account! I cannot defend them in the slightest and won't. I know it can get tiring during a long shift dealing with shit job after shit job but at the end of the day that is my job!! And it's no excuse to simply ignore a genuine request from the public to deal with something. I know a lot of coppers who forget the reasons they joined the job and get sucked into a very cyncial and negative culture and end up being very miserable and crap at their jobs. the blame for this lies firmly with the government for not putting more coppers out on the streets and being obsessed with statistics and performance indicators and paperwork which just stresses coppers out after a few years. Of course an individual coppers decision to be rude and unhelpful is his or her decision and indefensible.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

They seem to fall into the lazy fuckwit category by the sounds of your account! I cannot defend them in the slightest and won't. I know it can get tiring during a long shift dealing with shit job after shit job but at the end of the day that is my job!! And it's no excuse to simply ignore a genuine request from the public to deal with something. I know a lot of coppers who forget the reasons they joined the job and get sucked into a very cyncial and negative culture and end up being very miserable and crap at their jobs. the blame for this lies firmly with the government for not putting more coppers out on the streets and being obsessed with statistics and performance indicators and paperwork which just stresses coppers out after a few years. Of course an individual coppers decision to be rude and unhelpful is his or her decision and indefensible.

Word.

It's the same all over, I can imagine as well particularly in policing, that a culture can develop which sets officers apart from the public, almost like the public are the enemy, which inevitably leads to the allegations of high handness, arrogance and inflexibility which dog the force.

TBH I cannot see how this can br remedied, I know A&E Nurses who hate the public for their shitty attitude, difference is, cops can and will react if they are abused.

 

[Yorkie]

...dodgy plates on a car is a good indication that someone's up to no good and deserves further attention. That's not my point. It's the disproportionate approach that's taken.

Quite often, searching a house for drugs leads to stolen goods turning up - are you justifying greater use of random searches of houses? If not, why not?

Also, once again you're missing the point. Why are motorists FINED disproportionately? I can cause all sorts of mayhem and be fairly sure the police won't take too much action - a motorist can be fairly certain that if he's pulled over for something then he'll get fined and/or points.

Parking fines are the council not the police.
I said this to you before when we've had this discussion, have a day sitting the public gallery at the magistrates court and just see for yourself the proportion of traffic cases to theft, assault, burglary, public order offences, etc etc. You will then see that motorists are not as targetted as you think.

 

[Gwylan]

There's some good ranting on here.

The problem with Buzzer's thesis is that it's all very well saying minor offences should be left alone but what if it's your driveway or your car that is blocked? Suddenly, those 'minor' offences become significant to you. Maybe you'd be happy to have your blocked in for a few hours but most people wouldn't be - hence the regular pleas at Withdean for drivers to move their cars before the police move it for them.

But Buzzer's posts show why the zero tolerance crime approach (which quite a few people were calling for in the wake of the Rhys Jones shooting) never works in the long term. An approach that says all crimes, no matter how trivial, should be prosecuted just doesn't wash with members of the public who clearly think that certain offences should be treated leniently or ignored altogether.

 

[Buzzer]

Parking fines are the council not the police.
I said this to you before when we've had this discussion, have a day sitting the public gallery at the magistrates court and just see for yourself the proportion of traffic cases to theft, assault, burglary, public order offences, etc etc. You will then see that motorists are not as targetted as you think.

where have I said parking? ...and how many fines do motorists get from police aren't dealt with by the courts?

 

[Buzzer]

None of it. But you should never ever expect anything resembling an apology from Frank so don't bother asking him to explain himself. He's never wrong, even when he's opened his unpleasant, boring gob in a midst of a heated rant. Dont forget, this is the man who went on a Coventry board and told them that Hitler got it right when he carpet bombed the place (killing over a thousand people) - because they had the temerity to suggest that Brighton away was a crap FA Cup draw for them.

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Explains a lot, that does. I got off lightly then. I was half expecting him to completely lose it and tell me how good/bad my mother was.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

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Explains a lot, that does. I got off lightly then. I was half expecting him to completely lose it and tell me how good/bad my mother was.

Whats one and a half feet long and stands at the foot of your mums bed?

Franks Leg.

 

[Yorkie]

where have I said parking? ...

Post number 4, second paragraph.

 

[bhaexpress]

None of it. But you should never ever expect anything resembling an apology from Frank so don't bother asking him to explain himself. He's never wrong, even when he's opened his unpleasant, boring gob in a midst of a heated rant. Dont forget, this is the man who went on a Coventry board and told them that Hitler got it right when he carpet bombed the place (killing over a thousand people) - because they had the temerity to suggest that Brighton away was a crap FA Cup draw for them.

Dear oh dear Dumbster, some old lady made you wait at the cashpoint again ? Talk about boring ! Oh, and as usual what I said about Coventry (rather a long time ago) wasn't about the fact they had a ppor draw, it was something else as it so happens but let's face it, lying to try and look clever is typical of you, now that is a FACT. The reason I think Buzzer is a bit silly is that he's ranting about somebody who broke the law. Does it quite matter how they were caught ? Breaking the law is breaking the law, the same as Simster lying, it's just plain wrong.

 

[bhaexpress]

Whats one and a half feet long and stands at the foot of your mums bed?

Franks Leg.

Your mum should be so lucky !

 

[John Bumlick]

what an absolute cock fest this thread is. who says nsc is shit?

edit: f***ing hell! just realised i have 99 posts here. i'd better f*** off and never come back...

 

[bhaexpress]

what an absolute cock fest this thread is. who says nsc is shit?

Nail, head, hit on

 

[Simster]

Dear oh dear Dumbster, some old lady made you wait at the cashpoint again ? Talk about boring ! Oh, and as usual what I said about Coventry (rather a long time ago) wasn't about the fact they had a ppor draw, it was something else as it so happens but let's face it, lying to try and look clever is typical of you, now that is a FACT. The reason I think Buzzer is a bit silly is that he's ranting about somebody who broke the law. Does it quite matter how they were caught ? Breaking the law is breaking the law, the same as Simster lying, it's just plain wrong.

You always do this. Act like a total cuntpipe and then refuse to admit it when you think the evidence has long since been buried, and then accuse your accuser of being a liar.

Well the evidence *is* still around - here it is:

http://85.234.132.19/showthread.php?t=62133

You laid into the Coventry fans on their board because they didn't like the cup draw and then attempted to cover it up when you realised that no-one on this board agreed with your hideous behaviour, by saying it was because of homophobic abuse . Except there wasn't any homophobic abuse until you had your say on Hitler's carpet bombing. A point which is backed up by this quote later on in that thread:

Frank - where was the homophobic abuse before you started laying in? I couldn't and still can't see it.

How about we just let people make their own minds up, eh.

 

[rool]

Oh bugger, there goes any chance of me finishing the management accounts this afternoon.

Bombay mix anyone?