Early contender for Sussex w***ker of the year

[Buzzer]

Doesn't anyone bother reading the previous posts before they post stupid, stupid truisms?
All your arguments are as irrelevant as when you first posted them. I dare say that the police do catch bigger fish when stopping motorists. The reason why is simple. There are so many motorists that the average motorist probably matches exactly the average person in the street. If you stop someone in the street on suspicion of a minor crime then the chances are that eventually you'll get a bigger criminal too. This is no justification that the policy of disproportionately stopping motorists is more effective nor is it a justification for having a zero-tolerance policy only against motorists.
Where is the evidence that this prevents more crimes than stopping pedestrians? Why do the police disproportionately fine and penalise motorists as opposed to non-motorists?

Considering most crime is committed by those already known to the police (and with serious crimes such as drug dealing this will be a near-certainty) then targeting these criminals directly rather than concentrating on the scattergun approach that you seem to be vindicating would be a darn sight more effective.

 

[bhaexpress]

Doesn't anyone bother reading the previous posts before they post stupid, stupid truisms?
All your arguments are as irrelevant as when you first posted them. I dare say that the police do catch bigger fish when stopping motorists. The reason why is simple. There are so many motorists that the average motorist probably matches exactly the average person in the street. If you stop someone in the street on suspicion of a minor crime then the chances are that eventually you'll get a bigger criminal too. This is no justification that the policy of disproportionately stopping motorists is more effective nor is it a justification for having a zero-tolerance policy only against motorists.
Where is the evidence that this prevents more crimes than stopping pedestrians? Why do the police disproportionately fine and penalise motorists as opposed to non-motorists?

Considering most crime is committed by those already known to the police (and with serious crimes such as drug dealing this will be a near-certainty) then targeting these criminals directly rather than concentrating on the scattergun approach that you seem to be vindicating would be a darn sight more effective.

And he calls us stupid

 

[Buzzer]

And he calls us stupid

- I said you posted stupid trusims. There's a big difference.


- unless you're implying that I'm stupid. Which is it?

 

[El Presidente]

Buzzer, I see the cases that go into court. Many a drug dealer has been caught for not having tax displayed or having his number plate investigated for no insurance.

Do you need special insurance these days to be a drug dealer? Someone tell Pete Doherty quick.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

Bollocks to the power of testes.

You're inventing spurious hypothetical arguments, now.

How do you know anyone was blocked?

As for your arguments about what makes motorists special - in the eyes of the law they are easy targets, that's what makes them special. They tend to pay fines and are thus a cash cow. All I was asking for was some sort of consistency.

If a twat who belts a policeman, pukes up along West Street and resists arrest can get off witha caution then a motorist who does nothing worse than deem it safer to rest rather than drive on should get the same consideration.

Let me turn it round. If the non-motorist does the non-motoring crime then punish him as you would a motorist.
Doesn't take away, though that you are trying to compare mine (and the majority of this country's) disgust at the heavy-handed approach police take to MINOR motoring offences with the very criminal act of drink-driving.

Completely different, as well you know.

Top ranting Buzzer!

I suspect that this bloke Cavalier (how apt is that name?) is an Alcoholic, and as such is probably not thinking straight. He's on the sauce at Breakfast and was obviously paralytic by the time he elected to go for a spin.

I will be completely honest and admit that as a younger more foolish man I have, on occaision, driven my car whilst over the limit, I wasn't caught and no-one was hurt, but when I think back...I am ashamed of myself.

That said, If I had been caught I doubt I would have behaved like this pillock

He deserves everything he gets, as I would if I'd been Nicked back then.

 

[bhaexpress]

- I said you posted stupid trusims. There's a big difference.


- unless you're implying that I'm stupid. Which is it?

I'd tell you but I don't think you're smart enough to understand.

 

[Simster]

and there are signs saying don't let your dog shit in the park, don't litter, don't fare dodge, don't graffiti, don't shoplift, don't smoke, don't chant racist or homophobic abuse. The reasons these are ignored....because they are not enforced. The reason why these are not enforced...too much trouble for the return you get, unlike the motoring offences.

I'm with you until you get to explaining why some offences aren't enforced. I always assumed that speeding offences were rigorously enforced was because of the public perception that speeding can kill innocent people. A bit of dog shit left in a park is inconsiderate and a health hazard but ultimately easier to avoid than a car careering out of control at you whilst doing 90mph.

That said, why bother making any laws that can't be enforced.

 

[Simster]

I'd tell you but I don't think you're smart enough to understand.

So what exactly was stupid about the post you replied to with "And he calls us stupid"?

 

[sten_super]

I'm with you until you get to explaining why some offences aren't enforced. I always assumed that speeding offences were rigorously enforced was because of the public perception that speeding can kill innocent people. A bit of dog shit left in a park is inconsiderate and a health hazard but ultimately easier to avoid than a car careering out of control at you whilst doing 90mph.

That said, why bother making any laws that can't be enforced.

But it's not just speeding offences though is it; it's parking fines and their ilk as well. I agree with Buzzer.

If a car ran through the middle of a busy traffic light junction when the light was on red, and there was a copper there, the car would be stopped and the driver interrogated (at least). If a pedestrian or cyclist does it, the police would ignore it. And I've seen this happen.

I don't understand how Yorkie and looney (I think) can justify the lack of tolerance that motorists get compared to other groups by saying "well it catches some serious criminals". As Buzzer points out, any clamp down on a particular group (say cylists, pedestrians, whatever) would result in catching some serious criminals, because you would be interogating and dealing with more people.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

So what exactly was stupid about the post you replied to with "And he calls us stupid"?

I have taken my Leprosy medicine this morning, and have asked my Mum to lock the doors.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

But it's not just speeding offences though is it; it's parking fines and their ilk as well. I agree with Buzzer.

If a car ran through the middle of a busy traffic light junction when the light was on red, and there was a copper there, the car would be stopped and the driver interrogated (at least). If a pedestrian or cyclist does it, the police would ignore it. And I've seen this happen.

I don't understand how Yorkie and looney (I think) can justify the lack of tolerance that motorists get compared to other groups by saying "well it catches some serious criminals". As Buzzer points out, any clamp down on a particular group (say cylists, pedestrians, whatever) would result in catching some serious criminals, because you would be interogating and dealing with more people.

The Bizzies can't be arsed dealing with some crimes, recently I was sitting in a massive snarl up near Preston Circus caused by some prick in a van parked illegally with hazards flashing [pretty much blocking the Left turn, ahead of me is a Police car with two cops sitting chatting, I get out and knock on their window to ask why they aren't sorting the problem and at least ticketing the dick who was behind the jam, they refused until i took their epaulette numbers and threatened to report them to the chief constable, that got them on it, problem solved in about five seconds.

No one should have to ask the OB to do their job, but they would rather do the glamourous stuff than the jobs that would actually make day to day life more pleasant for everyone.

 

[Buzzer]

I'd tell you but I don't think you're smart enough to understand.

Come on, Frank. Between Simster, Bev Hillbilly, Sten Super and me we may be able to work out why I'm being stupid.

 

[Dave the OAP]

I'd tell you but I don't think you're smart enough to understand.

Frank...stop picking fights with people

 

[Easy 10]

Surely speeders and drunk drivers shouldnt be TOO harshly penalised, as there is always a chance they will run over a drug dealer ?

 

[Napper]

230 deaths in last 6 years but 280 in 2004 ??

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

230 deaths in last 6 years but 280 in 2004 ??

after Englands performance in Euro 2004, everyone obviously needed a damn good drink.

 

[bhaexpress]

So what exactly was stupid about the post you replied to with "And he calls us stupid"?

You mean you don't think your rant is tedious and pointless ? Oh well

 

[bhaexpress]

Frank...stop picking fights with people

Piss off Dave

 

[Simster]

You mean you don't think your rant is tedious and pointless ? Oh well

Mine was a perfectly reasonable question to you, and this is what I get in reply.

And you haven't actually explained yourself to Buzzer, not that I expected you to.


Still, that's why everyone on here hates you Frank.

 

[Buzzer]

You mean you don't think your rant is tedious and pointless ? Oh well

Tedious, maybe. Pointless? - no.

Come on Einstein. Explain yourself. Which bit is stupid?

Simster - I assume he means my rant. I don't think your posts were rants, unlike mine and I'm more than happy to stick my hand up and acknowledge that they may appear tedious.