[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

[BadFish]

I think they all made fools of themselves to a certain extent.

Can you elaborate on how you felt Zelenskyy made a fool of himself?

It was very refreshing to see an open expression of ideas, opinions, on public display, something I can’t ever remember seeing before.

You make it sound like a positive. Do you take pride in how Trump and Vance conducted this meeting?

Zelenskyy needs AmerIca, push your chest out as much as you want. Do you want peace or war?

What do you think is reasonable for Zelenskyy to give up to get peace?

I would also ask if you believe that if Zenelsky surrenders Ukraine, minerals and whatever else Putin and Trump are demanding, will Putin stop at Ukraine?

 

[lasvegan]

Demanding security guarantees, what does that even mean? Boots on the ground? European boots on the ground and a world war…Eff off, not happening.

What is reasonable for Zelenskyy to give up to get peace? I don’t know, but I know the alternative, carry on as you were…death.

Putin will probably stop at nothing…

Life is shit.

 

[BadFish]

Demanding security guarantees, what does that even mean? Boots on the ground? European boots on the ground and a world war…Eff off, not happening.

What is reasonable for Zelenskyy to give up to get peace? I don’t know, but I know the alternative, carry on as you were…death.

Putin will probably stop at nothing…

Life is shit.

Putin will probably stop at nothing with the full support of your president, who appears to have your support.

Are the scales not beginning to fall from your eyes?

 

[BiffyBoy100]

I would be utterly ashamed to be American if were unfortunate enough to be so at this time.

JD Vance is the British equivalent of a scumbag estate agent or recruiter. The kind of guy that would sell his own grandmother (and I think he quite liked her)

 

[Berty23]

Demanding security guarantees, what does that even mean? Boots on the ground? European boots on the ground and a world war…Eff off, not happening.

What is reasonable for Zelenskyy to give up to get peace? I don’t know, but I know the alternative, carry on as you were…death.

Putin will probably stop at nothing…

Life is shit.

Genuine questions
1) if Putin can march into a different country and take a significant chunk of it and is allowed to stay then do you think he would stop here?
2) do you understand that allowing russia to stay is appeasement?
3) have you ever studied the Second World War and how Hitler was appeased by allowing him to keep a chunk of land?

America was the leader of the free world and now the world looks on as it becomes anti free speech and a banana republic. Imagine a country where Russia state tv are invited to a news conference where someone whose land is currently under attack is attacked himself for not wearing a bloody suit, but Reuters are not allowed.

How long will it be until countries start making noises about boycotting the World Cup and the Olympics. I wonder if that would focus trump’s mind.

 

[darkwolf666]

I’m not deflecting anything.

And oh! You’re very welcome…

Thank you…

 

[armchairclubber]

Corbyn achieved what exactly?

Corbyn wasn't elected.

His 2019 campaign was already being undermined by the likes of Luke Akehurst (the same one found a safe seat) and Keir Starmer.

You'd likely be maligned now for ever having voted for him in that election, even by those who did themselves (then consider the options)

And the country fell for some devious clown called Boris.

Well I never.

It should tell you something about influences within UK politics, just as there are in th US.

wrong thread by the way

 

[darkwolf666]

You’re absolutely right, America is not you’re enemy, we’re friends and allies.

The anti American sentiment on here is quite frankly getting on my tits. All because you hate one (maybe two) people.

The problem though, is millions of Americans voted for those one or two people, although to be fair, after his antics today it’s definitely 3 people, as Vance has revealed his true self to the world stage…!

Also, if our opinions upset your sensibilities there is a handy ignore feature available to you…

 

[darkwolf666]

I was at Albion matches before you were probably born. BHA has been my lifelong passion. Kit Napier is my lifelong Albion hero, do you even know who he is? My picture with him is/was on the mural at Dick’s bar, as is my granddaughters . Don’t be a twat, you’re much better than that.

Wow, simply wow!
Tw@

onto ignore you go…

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Who was the w&nker in the ill-fitting suit who asked Zelenskyy if he owned a suit.

What.A.Tw@

Who disrespected the Oval Office by not wearing a suit?

 

[Swegulls]

It's hard to believe that 77 000 000 people actually voted for that piece of shit.

 

[Blackadder]

The Donald is now selling MARA hats at $75 a pop

Make America Russian Again.

 

[essbee1]

It's hard to believe that 77 000 000 people actually voted for that piece of shit.

If that utter **** comes to the UK on this state visit shit, I'm happy to do time inside for my protest on
the streets. I'm hoping Charles and the Govt cancel it now.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The Donald is now selling MARA hats at $75 a pop

Make America Russian Again.

He needs the money seeing as his crypto currency is tanking.

 

[Swegulls]

If that utter **** comes to the UK on this state visit shit, I'm happy to do time inside for my protest on
the streets. I'm hoping Charles and the Govt cancel it now.

Yeah, I guess Charles regret that invitation now. Hope they cancel it, to make some statement.

 

[vegster]

You’re absolutely right, America is not you’re enemy, we’re friends and allies.

The anti American sentiment on here is quite frankly getting on my tits. All because you hate one (maybe two) people.

Sorry, not just one or two people. It's pretty much all of the Republican party. Well all those when asked " Who started the war in Ukraine ? " and are unable to reply as they are in thrall to the ramblings of an idiot... the answer is Russia btw.

 

[Insel affe]

Interesting developments, could he come to UK to face charges?

Andrew Tate live updates: UK ‘in bid to extradite brothers’ after they land in US

The controversial brothers credited US president Donald Trump for ‘feeling safe’ in Florida

www.independent.co.uk

Britain considering asking US to extradite Tate brothers back to UK

Home Secretary exploring legal options for return of brothers to Britain, The Telegraph can reveal

www.telegraph.co.uk

Yeah right’o

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Cool. Well he's just signed the death warrant for another few hundred thousand because he couldn't swallow his pride. And as it stands Ukraine is f***ed.

Great leadership.

So you're blaming the leader of a country that was invaded for and not stopping the war?

'Cool'.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Demanding security guarantees, what does that even mean? Boots on the ground? European boots on the ground and a world war…Eff off, not happening.

What is reasonable for Zelenskyy to give up to get peace? I don’t know, but I know the alternative, carry on as you were…death.

Putin will probably stop at nothing…

Life is shit.

I know what is reasonable:
Expecting his allies to acknowledge Russia as the unequivocal aggressor, the invader, the perpetrator of war crimes.

Expecting his allies to support their struggle to retain their territory or as much of it as is palatable.

Expect his allies not to tell lies about what other allies have given or expected back.

Expect his allies not to say he is the dictator and is corrupt while Putin is to be admired and trusted.

I could go on. But like that utter stooge of a reporter asking Zelenskyy about how he was dressed, the MAGA cult is now so entrenched that anything flies and is justified.

 

[BN41Albion]

You’re absolutely right, America is not you’re enemy, we’re friends and allies.

The anti American sentiment on here is quite frankly getting on my tits. All because you hate one (maybe two) people.

A hell of a lot of Americans voted for Trump again, despite knowing how vile an individual he and his cronies are, and knowing exactly what a trump presidency looks and feels like...

At the end of the day, this is a British football forum where politics is also discussed. Like the rest of the world, a lot of folk are angry, upset and disgusted at what's going on across the pond, and flabbergasted at the fact that still, still! There will be millions and millions of Americans fully behind Trump/maga, and believing/hanging on every word that comes out of his, vance and all the other ****s mouths. We're venting, that's all.