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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .






Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
54,850
Goldstone
Putin wants the whole of Ukraine, and won't stop until he gets it (unless Russia collapses) - and therefore there won't be real peace unless he does. He's not saying that he will get it all or that he believes Putin will.

I'm sorry, but if you're trying to say that you don't believe Putin will get it all, then your grammar is wrong. Saying that there won't be real peace until Putin gets the whole of Ukraine IS saying that you think he will get it.
 


GoldstoneVintage

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2024
481
Europe
To be fair to @Greg Bobkin, I think he is actually saying the same thing. Putin wants the whole of Ukraine, and won't stop until he gets it (unless Russia collapses) - and therefore there won't be real peace unless he does. He's not saying that he will get it all or that he believes Putin will.
Agree. I think text us such a limited medium for communication and it seems that @Triggaaar and @Greg Bobkin have been violently agreeing with each other! 🤝
 








studio150

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 30, 2011
30,523
On the Border
Poor bloke's tossing and turning at the moment. Imagine what a wordsmith would have made of the random collection of words which fell out of Trump's mouth during his address to Congress this week. It wasn't a speech, it was verbal garbage.
No, No it wasn't verbal garbage it was his famous weave.

At least this time he said probable fraud rather than actual fraud.
 


studio150

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 30, 2011
30,523
On the Border
And Trumps onto wanting to revisit the border agreement with Canada that dates from the early 1900s , and something about the Great Lakes which could be anything from giving them American names. or expanding the amount of water than America controls.

And if Trump drank coffee, he would probably invade Canada now, given that Americanos are being replaced with Canadianos
 


Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
17,120
That is not at all similar. There is a huge difference between what Putin wants to do, and what he's capable of doing. I agree with you on what he wants to do. It's Russian propaganda to believe he can do it.

The easiest way for Russia to get victory in Ukraine is to make everyone believe that it's inevitable. The sort of propaganda/shill statements we're used to reading include being told that giving weapons to Ukraine means the conflict will go on longer and so more Ukrainians will die. It's complete bullshit and Russian propaganda. If the world believes that Ukraine can't win, then the world might as well stop supporting them, and Ukrainians themselves might as well stop fighting a lost cause, in which case Russia would win. But the actual truth is that if Ukraine is supported, then Russia cannot win.

Your belief that Russia will get full control of Ukraine is Russian propaganda. That doesn't mean you're wrong to think it's Putin's goal.
OK, whatever you say. I don't have the energy for it.
 






SouthSaxon

Stand or fall
NSC Patron
Jan 25, 2025
359


Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,379
On NSC for over two decades...








Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
58,691
Faversham
Not this again, that charlatan Andrew Wakefield has a lot to answer for.
The NIH wasted millions and risked lives trialing laetrile after Steve McQueen lobbied for it
(He died of his cancer. Fancy that!)

Wakefield is an absolute manifestation.
He should be in jail.
 








sparkie

Neo-Luddite
Jul 17, 2003
13,442
Hove
It seems that way.

When I think about it, it breaks my heart.

All by Putin's design.

How the US Intelligence Services cannot see the clear and present danger to the US of Putin's plan is beyond me.

Perhaps they do. I wouldn't know.
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
19,262






BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
19,262
Come on fella, we are way beyond that. RFK is a proper crank so this sort of nonsense was inevitable.
Just another step on the road to the undefined notion of making America Great again.

U.S.A ... U.S.A ... U.S A

Muppets. *

*Before I get accused of being anti American, I would like to confirm that I am referring to those that buy I to this shit not the whole of America.
 


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