[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

[dadams2k11]

There's still dickheads here who stick up for Trump? Wow.

I don't agree with what is happening, but to say someone is a Dickhead for having a different point of view is childish.

We all have different opinions on this, and that's fine.

We shouldn't resort to name calling though.

 

[A1X]

It doesn't matter. He doesn't represent the russian people.

So who does?

 

[dwayne]

There's still dickheads here who stick up for Trump? Wow.

I'm not sticking up for trump but trump is fairly predictable.

it was BLATANTLY obvious how this was gonna go. Zelensky had to come on his hands and knees. And zelensky had to be willing to concede something. Or why bother going?

It was just so so obvious how this was gonna go.

 

[dwayne]

So who does?

The majority of russian people who I believe dont want this war .....

 

[dwayne]

The only piece of land Ukraine might have to compromise on is the Crimea. That land has historically belonged to many nations and it is simply too hard to claim that Ukraine has the right to it any more than anyone else. The rest of it is simply not up for debate. It is Ukrainian land. I'll refer you to my example where the south west of England is invaded. I don't care what the hue of my government is at the time, that's my fvcking country and our land and I'd die fighting for it. It is the same for the Ukrainian eastern front. Any peace deal brokered there would leave skirmishes and fighting forever more, and a president rightly considered a traitor by his own countrymen.

This is not complicated to understand, Dwayne. As someone who spends his time on here boasting about how well travelled he is, you show a remarkable lack of intellect and understanding of how people will fight for their own land and culture. You surely can't be this dense?

You would die on the battlefield for Hampshire then if Putin wanted that.....really ?

I wouldn't !! I would want peace at all costs.

 

[Seagull58]

No, it isn’t. Zelensky will not give in.

Unfortunately the deal is gonna have to be bullshit there probably is no other way. Peace is the main objective.

The main objective is to secure ukraine's sovereign territory and independence from the Russian empire. That's what they've been fighting for for 3 years.

 

[Bold Seagull]

I'm sure @Bold Seagull will correct me if I'm wrong but when he said "people in Moscow" to which you replied, he was referring to the war criminals in charge, not the man-on-the-street.

And rest assured, those war criminals will be enjoying their Fridat night vodka this week.

I wouldn’t for a second have thought it needed explaining, but thank you for doing so. I’m at a loss tonight if how some people’s brains work, but bouyed by how united opinion is across the NSC spectrum on this matter.

 

[jcdenton08]

You would die on the battlefield for Hampshire then if Putin wanted that.....really ?

I wouldn't !! I would want peace at all costs.

Peace at all costs? So you’d let Putin annex whatever he liked? Jesus I can’t believe what I’m reading here. You have to be on a wind up?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The majority of russian people who I believe dont want this war .....

The Russian people don’t have a choice. It’s poison or pick your window.

Have you forgotten Salisbury so easily?

 

[essbee1]

I don't agree with what is happening, but to say someone is a Dickhead for having a different point of view is childish.

We all have different opinions on this, and that's fine.

We shouldn't resort to name calling though.

dickhead or Dickhead?

 

[GT49er]

I'm not sticking up for trump but trump is fairly predictable.

it was BLATANTLY obvious how this was gonna go. Zelensky had to come on his hands and knees. And zelensky had to be willing to concede something. Or why bother going?

It was just so so obvious how this was gonna go.

Trump didn't want Zelensky to concede anything - he wanted him to surrender, because that is Trump's idea of ending the war (with a nice juicy treaty to enable the USA to pick over the remains).

 

[Scappa]

Peace at all costs? So you’d let Putin annex whatever he liked? Jesus I can’t believe what I’m reading here. You have to be on a wind up?

It's his MO. Why would tonight be any different?

 

[Simster]

You would die on the battlefield for Hampshire then if Putin wanted that.....really ?

I wouldn't !! I would want peace at all costs.

You're damned right I would, (not that Hampshire is ever considered south west). Anyone English and not an entitled dickhead would say the same.

 

[dwayne]

The main objective is to secure ukraine's sovereign territory and independence from the Russuan empire. That's what they've been fighting for for 3 years.

That's what Ukraine have been fighting for. But unfortunately they are not in NATO and they need the US to help them. And unfortunately the US have a different view. I would prefer it a different way but it is what it is. Zelensky and trump embarrassed themselves today, they were both arguing in front of the media.

 

[Bold Seagull]

You would die on the battlefield for Hampshire then if Putin wanted that.....really ?

I wouldn't !! I would want peace at all costs.

So your family is already under occupation because they moved to Dorset a few years back and you’d back a peace deal that condemns them to having no freedom and live in a new county - seriously!?

I wouldn’t want to die on a battlefield either, or my sons or family and friends, but if my family have already been killed or taken or occupied, what am I going to do?

Honestly, put the phone or laptop down, turn social media off because it’s getting embarrassing.

 

[BBassic]

I don't agree with what is happening, but to say someone is a Dickhead for having a different point of view is childish.

We all have different opinions on this, and that's fine.

We shouldn't resort to name calling though.

I feel quite comfortable calling anyone who supports Trump a dickhead because...well...they're dickheads.

 

[A1X]

The majority of russian people who I believe dont want this war .....

Not a valid answer to my question. Who represents them?

 

[dwayne]

You're damned right I would. Anyone English and not an entitled dickhead would say the same.

Ok I respect your opinion and your viewpoint. I definitely wouldn't. I would never fight for England and I'm honest about that. I would run away to Thailand or some shit !!

 

[A1X]

You would die on the battlefield for Hampshire then if Putin wanted that.....really ?

I wouldn't !! I would want peace at all costs.

Fortunately 80 years ago the British public weren’t quite so self-centred

 

[Bold Seagull]

I feel quite comfortable calling anyone who supports Trump a dickhead because...well...they're dickheads.

Think dickhead is getting off lightly.