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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .


GoldstoneVintage

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2024
321
Europe
I haven’t looked into UK finances, but take a look at ours.

Budget deficit nearly $2 TRILLION last year alone. National debt, over $37 TRILLION…so massive its hard to get your head around the numbers.

Who is actually off their heads?

Bring it on, Elon…
Good idea! We can just overlook the fact that he's a Putin-supporting fascist who likes to peddle lies and Russian disinformation in order to spread hate, cause social division and bring down democratic societies. 🤡
 




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NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
58,332
Faversham
More fuckwittery - they'll certainly need to count the gold after Trump and Musk have left!

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Never trust a man who cheats at golf.

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FatSuperman

Well-known member
Feb 25, 2016
2,954
I haven’t looked into UK finances, but take a look at ours.

Budget deficit nearly $2 TRILLION last year alone. National debt, over $37 TRILLION…so massive its hard to get your head around the numbers.

Who is actually off their heads?

Bring it on, Elon…

Americans seem to have an incredibly facile understanding of these things. You have Elong and the boys just arbitrarily tearing things down and saying they are bad, and you have idiots on social media cheering about it, without having the faintest idea what they are cheering about. You have Trump trying to extort another nation of 50% of their resources and future income, and when that nation rejects it Trump threatens to retreat from the world and focus on fortress America, and you have the idiots cheering about that too.

What happens when all the US bases are shut? Do you genuinely believe that America has been 'protecting Europe' out of the goodness of it's heart? How naive must you be to listen to that nonsense and cheer wildly that it might end. The US expansion around the globe was the power projection that made US economic empire possible. When you remove it all, and when you stab your allies in the back, you are putting at risk everything that your previous generations have built. That was built for a reason - for American interests. Just because Trump doesn't understand it, that doesn't mean it isn't needed. Many Americans are cheering all of this simply because it appears to be stopping American money being spent on others. And there nothing Americans hate more than other people being helped with their money.

Americans are very likely to look back at this era as the time when their great nation fell on it's own sword. And I hope they'll finally be embarrassed by their sheer idiocy in clapping whilst it happened.
 


Sea Cider

Well-known member
Dec 27, 2012
629
Americans seem to have an incredibly facile understanding of these things. You have Elong and the boys just arbitrarily tearing things down and saying they are bad, and you have idiots on social media cheering about it, without having the faintest idea what they are cheering about. You have Trump trying to extort another nation of 50% of their resources and future income, and when that nation rejects it Trump threatens to retreat from the world and focus on fortress America, and you have the idiots cheering about that too.

What happens when all the US bases are shut? Do you genuinely believe that America has been 'protecting Europe' out of the goodness of it's heart? How naive must you be to listen to that nonsense and cheer wildly that it might end. The US expansion around the globe was the power projection that made US economic empire possible. When you remove it all, and when you stab your allies in the back, you are putting at risk everything that your previous generations have built. That was built for a reason - for American interests. Just because Trump doesn't understand it, that doesn't mean it isn't needed. Many Americans are cheering all of this simply because it appears to be stopping American money being spent on others. And there nothing Americans hate more than other people being helped with their money.

Americans are very likely to look back at this era as the time when their great nation fell on it's own sword. And I hope they'll finally be embarrassed by their sheer idiocy in clapping whilst it happened.
Excellent post
 














FatSuperman

Well-known member
Feb 25, 2016
2,954
Is there something wrong with 'spence'? Why does he keep replying with only laughing emojis? Odd character
It's the equivalent of responding to a coherent argument with "cry more you lib".

These characters don't have any ability to have a genuine conversation, because more often than not they are simply happy about the current situation because other people are getting hurt. I'm sure there are many deep and complicated psychological observations about why, but I'd bundle it to envy and a lack of knowledge.
 




Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
10,866
In my opinion, for the reasons outlined below, Trump, whilst being an everyday regular normal kunnt, is also an opportunistic kunnt of the highest order:
  • He cares not for Israel of Palestine, but in that conflict there appears to be some land up for grabs. Nice land in the med, on the coast.
  • He cares not for Ukraine, but in their conflict with Russia, there appear to be some significant mineral deposits to be had.
The least suitable person to hold high office.
 








Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
63,873
The Fatherland




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,923
Gods country fortnightly
Lots of protests across America not being covered by US news networks. Meanwhile, social media is awash with bots and trolls on every post that is reporting them.
A reminder why media regulation and strong public service broadcasting is important.

It seems holding truth to power has considerable commercial risk
 


Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,831
Brighton factually.....
White House asking Ukraine to hand over access their minerals in exchange for aid. This really is the worst kind of blackmail. This is utterly disgusting. Anyone who still supports this man should be ashamed of themselves.

Trump is shamelessly self obsessed and has his own interests at heart not the countries.
There sadly must come appoint when Zelenskyy has to actually think, who is worse, who will shaft me the least.

Putin or Trump, Trump or Putin....

no wonder he looks so downtrodden and sad.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
63,873
The Fatherland
Trump is shamelessly self obsessed and has his own interests at heart not the countries.
There sadly must come appoint when Zelenskyy has to actually think, who is worse, who will shaft me the least.

Putin or Trump, Trump or Putin....

no wonder he looks so downtrodden and sad.
Europe should step forward and say if the US wants to side with Russia then so be it, we will help Ukraine. .
 


Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,831
Brighton factually.....
Europe should step forward and say if the US wants to side with Russia then so be it, we will help Ukraine. .
That does mean war.....

Trump will sit it out..
Possibly he will invade Greenland, while we are busy.

He will then join the war when all sides are on their knees and rape us all.
 
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Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,648
Mid Sussex
That does mean war.....

Trump will sit it...
Possibly he will invade Greenland, while we are busy.

He will then join the war when all sides are on their knees and rape us all.
Trump doesn’t war, war cost money…. He‘s an opportunist but also a coward. he’ll not so anything that where he could ‘lose’.
 


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